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25 July 2006
UK POW Camps in WW2 by Gordon Wilkie
By Steve White @ 21:09 :: 142337 Views :: 159 Comments :: :: Military Archaeology
 
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List of POW Camps - England

BEDFORDSHIRE
NoNameLocation
72Duck’s Cross CampColmworth
261Ampthill------


BIRMINGHAM
NoNameLocation
54Longbridge Camp------


BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
NoNameLocation
36Hartwell Dog TrackAylesbury
55Shalstone------
268Norduck FarmAston Abbots, Aylesbury
300Wilton ParkBeaconsfield
684Mitcham ParkBurnham


BURY
NoNameLocation
12Bury------
177Warth Mills Camp------


CAMBRIDGESHIRE
NoNameLocation
26Barton Field CampEly
45Trumpington------
59Wood Walton LaneSawtry
90Friday BridgeWisbech
130West Fen MilitiaEly
141Beeson HouseSt. Neots
180Trumpington------
279Melitia CampYaxley, Farcet
1025Milton Road (PC)Histon


CHESHIRE
NoNameLocation
2Toft HallKnutsford
24Knutsford (MH)------
74Racecourse CampTarporley
147Boar’s HeadWalgherton, Nantwich
189Marbury HallNorthwich
191Crewe HallCrewe
283WD CampLedsham Hall, Ledsham
634Alverston CampNantwich


CITY OF BRISTOL
NoNameLocation
124Bedminster CampAshton Gate


CITY OF NOTTINGHAM
NoNameLocation
27Nottingham (GPC)------
166Woollaton Park CampNottingham


CITY OF PETERBOROUGH
NoNameLocation
265Park FarmThorney


CITY OF PLYMOUTH
NoNameLocation
137Hazledene CampElburton


CITY OF SOUTHAMPTON
NoNameLocation
402Southampton------


CORNWALL
NoNameLocation
115White Cross CampSt. Columb Major
257Pennygillam CampLaunceston
406Scarnecross CampLaunceston
674Consols Mine CampPar


COVENTRY
NoNameLocation
667Coventry------


CUMBRIA
NoNameLocation
1Grizedale HallHawkshead, Ambleside
13Shap Fells HotelShap, Penrith
76Merry Thought CampCalthwaite, Penrith
103Moota CampCockermouth
104Beela RiverMilnethorpe
155Hornby Hall CampPenrith
692LongtownCarlisle
696Carlisle------


DARLINGTON
NoNameLocation
36Darlington (GPC)------


DERBYSHIRE
NoNameLocation
23Sudbury------
58Belper------
58SwanwickAlfreton
179The Hayes CampRipley
179SwanwickAlfreton
248Belper------
248New Drill HallClay Cross, Chesterfield
297The Hayes CampRipley
634Weston on Trent------
1004Sudbury------
1023Sudbury (PC)------


DEVON
NoNameLocation
20Bickham CampYelverton, Tavistock
42Exhibition Field CampHolsworthy
92Bampton Rd.Tiverton
276PinhoeExeter
276Dymond’s FarmClyst Honiton, Exeter
404Ivybridge------
669CruwysMorchard Bishop, Tiverton
673BridestoweOkehampton
694Bideford------


DONCASTER
NoNameLocation
6Doncaster------
248Norton Camp------
296Racecourse CampDoncaster


DORSET
NoNameLocation
47Motcombe ParkShaftesbury
295CattistockDorchester
688LulworthW. Lulworth, Wareham
1021Merley Park (PC)Wimbourne Minster


DURHAM
NoNameLocation
93Oaklands Emergency HospitalBishop Auckland
93HarperleyFir  Tree, Crook


EAST SUSSEX
NoNameLocation
145Normanhurst CampBattle
1017Uckfield------


EAST RIDING OF YORKSHIRE
NoNameLocation
73Storwood CampMelbourne
136High HallBishop Bourton, Beverley
136Welton CampBrough
250Thorpe HallRudston, Driffield
264Welton HouseWelton, Brough
691SnaithGoole


ESSEX
NoNameLocation
78High GarretBraintree
116Mill LaneHatfield Heath
129Ashford Lodge CampHalstead
180Saffron Walden------
186Berechurch HallColchester
204Colchester------
236White HouseChurch Hill, Loughton
266Hutted CampLaindon Hills, Laindon
670Shaftesbury CampDovercourt, Harwich
680Shaftesbury CampDovercourt, Harwich
740Harwich Transit CampHarwich


GLOUCESTERSHIRE
NoNameLocation
37Sudeley CastleWinchcombe, Cheltenham
61Wynolls HillBroadwell, Coleford
142Gloucester------
157Bourton CampBourton on the Hill, Moreton in the Marsh
185Springhill Lodge CampBlockley, Moreton in the Marsh
232Northwick Park (MH)Blockley
263Leckhampton Court CampLeckhampton, Cheltenham
1009Nothway Camp (PC)Ashchurch, Tewkesbury


GREATER LONDON
NoNameLocation
11Trent Park CampBarnet
17W2 (GPC)------
30Carpenters’ RoadStratford East, E15
32Wormwood ScrubsShepherds Bush, W2
122Hatch EndHarrow on the Hill
122Rayner’s LaneHarrow on the Hill
125Newlands HouseSW17  Tooting Bec Road, Tooting Bec Common
233Summer HouseRavensbourne, Bromley
237Co-Ed-Bel CampLubbock Rd., Chislehurst
274Ministry of Works CampOxley Lane, Uxbridge Rd., Hatch End
669Ridge CampGreenford
1003Enfield (PC)------
1020Shooter’s HillWoolwich
1026Raynes Park CampBushey Rd., Wimbledon


HALTON
NoNameLocation
290South LaneBold. Barrow’s Green, Widnes


HAMPSHIRE
NoNameLocation
30Aldershot (GPC)------
41Ganger CampRomsey
65Setley PlainBrockenhurst
251East CamsDorchester Rd., Fareham
294Fisher’s CampTheddon Grange, Alton
614Stoneham CampEastleigh
663Park House Camp ‘A’Skipton Bellinger
672PophamMicheldever, Winchester
675Hiltingbury Rd.Chandler’s Ford, Eastleigh
676Puckride CampFleet Rd., Aldershot
693WhitchurchAndover
1000Oakhanger’s Camp (PC)Bordon
1006Willem BarracksAldershot
1019Aldershot (PC)------


HEREFORDSHIRE
NoNameLocation
27Ledbury------
29Royston Heath CampRoyston
686Morton on LuggHereford


HERTFORDSHIRE
NoNameLocation
33Dancer’s HillSouth Mimms
95Batford CampHarpenden
128MeesdenBuntingford
235Gorhambury ParkHemel Hempstead
411The Wynches CampMuch Hadham


KENT
NoNameLocation
33Shorncliffe Camp (GPC)Folkestone
40Somerhill CampTonbridge
86Stanhope CampAshford
86WoodchurchAshford
154Ministry of WorksSwanscombe
267Mereworth CastleMereworth
282Brissendean Green CampNr. Ashford
412Langdon BarracksDover
654Bridging CampWouldham
670St. Martin’s PlainFolkestone
730Dover------
866Stanhope CampAshford
1002Mothfield Common CampAshford


KIRKLEES
NoNameLocation
60Huddersfield------


LANCASHIRE
NoNameLocation
29Ormskirk (GH)------
65Preston (GPC)------
146Newton CampPreston
168Brookmill CampWoodlands, Kirkham


LEEDS
NoNameLocation
91Post Hill CampFarnley, Leeds
164Weston LaneOtley
244Butcher Hill CampLeeds
245Weston LaneOtley


LEICESTERSHIRE
NoNameLocation
4ScraptoftThurnby
9QuornLoughborough
28Knighthorpe CampAshby Rd., Loughborough
49Harrington CampFarndon Rd., Market Harborough
94Gaulby Rd.Billesden
152Old Liberal ClubCharnwood Rd., Shepshed
167Shady LaneStoughton
183QuornLoughborough
613Old DalbyMelton Mowbray


LINCOLNSHIRE
NoNameLocation
51AllingtonGrantham
79MoorbyRevesby
80HorblingSleaford
106Stamford------
138The Rectory CampBassingham
148Castlethorpe Hall CampCastlethorpe
153Fulney Park CampSpalding
156The Heath CampWellingore
254Sutton Bridge CampHolbeach, Holland Fen
256Wellingham HouseMarket Rasen
292North SomercotesLouth
407Usselby CampMarket Rasen
1012Canwick (PC)Lincoln


LIVERPOOL
NoNameLocation
1008Allerton------


LUTON
NoNameLocation
270Luton Airport------


MANCHESTER
NoNameLocation
126Mellands CampGorton


MEDWAY
NoNameLocation
117Walderslade CampChatham


NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
NoNameLocation
669Gosforth------


NORFOLK
NoNameLocation
82Aldburgh------
82Kempton Green CampFakenham
131Uplands CampDiss
132Kimberley CampKimberley
231Redgrave Park (MH)Diss
253Mousehold Heath CampNorwich
255RAF CampSnettisham
258RAF CampSeething
272RAF AirfieldAttleborough
280North Lynn FarmKing’s Lynn
281AldburghNorwich
409Wolterton CampAylsham


NORTHAMPTONSHIRE
NoNameLocation
35Boughton ParkBoughton
87Byfield Camp------
98Little AddingtonKettering
259WeekleyKettering
702King’s Cliffe------
1010Weedon CampWeedon Beck


NORTH-EAST LINCOLNSHIRE
NoNameLocation
170Wellesby CampGrimsby
292Wellesby CampGrimsby


NORTH LINCOLNSHIRE
NoNameLocation
81Pingley FarmBrigg
292Kirmington------


NORTH SOMERSET
NoNameLocation
403Brockley------


NORTH YORKSHIRE
NoNameLocation
4Gilling CampRichmond
53Sandbeds CampBrayton, Selby
60Overdale  CampSkipton
83Eden CampOld Malton, Malton
108ThirklebyThirsk
121Knaresborough------
121Racecourse CampRipon
159Butterwick------
163Butterwick------
178Ure Bank CampRipon
244Butterwick------
247Ure Bank CampRipon
250Old MaltonMalton
288Hartforth Grange CampGilling West, Richmond
631Stadium CampCatterick
662Stadium CampCatterick
664Stadium CampCatterick
690Selby------
1007Burn (PC)Selby
1015Tadcaster  (PC)------


NORTHUMBERLAND
NoNameLocation
18Featherstone ParkHaltwhistle
69Darras HallPonteland
105Brewery RdWooler
291Kitty Brewster FarmBlyth
667ByrnessRedeshale, Otterburn


NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
NoNameLocation
52Nether Headon CampRetford
143Carlton HallCarlton, Worksop
169Tollerton------
174Norton CampCuckney, Mansfield
181CarburtonWorksop
249CarburtonWorksop
262RAF CampLanger, Barnstone
613Tollerton HallTollerton, Plumtree
633Boughton CampNew Ollerton, Newark on Trent
698Tollerton------


OLDHAM
NoNameLocation
168Glen Mill CampOldham
176Glen Mill CampOldham


OXFORDSHIRE
NoNameLocation
43Harcourt  HallNorth Hinksley
246Working Men’s ClubNettlebed, Henley on Thames
632Old Windmills CampBlackthorn Arncot, Bicester
652Magazine CampDidcot
653Old Windmills CampBlackthorn Arncot, Bicester
657No 9 Tented CampArncot, Bicester
661Eynsham ParkEynsham, Witney
683Arncot DepotBicester
693Didcot------
695Bergard BarracksShrivenham
1011D30 Bicester GarrisonBicester


ROTHERHAM
NoNameLocation
269Rotherham------
296Ravenfield ParkRotherham


SEFTON
NoNameLocation
678Fort CrosbyHightown


SHEFFIELD
NoNameLocation
17Lodge Moor Camp------
127Potter’s Hill CampHigh Green


SHROPSHIRE
NoNameLocation
8Mile HouseOswestry
8SheriffhalesShifnal
23Shrewsbury (GPC)------
71SheriffhalesShifnal
84Sheet CampLudlow
100St. Martin’sOswestry
192Adderley HallAdderley, Market Drayton
240Shrewsbury------
240Adderley HallAdderley, Market Drayton
240Hawkstone ParkWeston, Wem
272Davenport  HouseWarfield, Bridgnorth
285Hawkstone ParkWeston, Wem
651‘S’ CampDonnington
657Donnington------
659‘S’ CampDonnington
67983 OSDWeston, Wem
1018Kinnerley (PC)Oswestry


SOMERSET
NoNameLocation
37Bridgewater (GPC)------
44GoathurstBridgewater
107PenleighWookey Hole, Wells
405Barwick HouseBarwick, Yeovil
665Cross Keys CampNorton Fitzwarren, Taunton
666Stoberry ParkWells
1022Norton Fitzwarren (PC)Taunton


SOUTH GLOUCESTERSHIRE
NoNameLocation
124Wapley CampYate


STAFFORDSHIRE
NoNameLocation
96Wolseley Rd.Rugeley
99Shugborough Park (GH)Great Haywood
134Loxley HallUttoxeter
193Madeley Tile Works CampMadeley
151Pendeford hallCodsall
151Coven------
151Halfpenny Green------
175Flaxley Green CampRugeley
194Council HousePenkridge


STOCKTON ON TEES
NoNameLocation
139Wolviston HallBillingham


SUFFOLK
NoNameLocation
56Botesdale------
71Newmarket West (GPC)------
85Victoria CampBrandon Rd., Mildenhall
171Bungay Base CampBungay, Beccles
260Hardwicke HouseBury St. Edmunds
273Flixton AirfieldFlixton, Bungay
273Debach AirfieldDebach, Woodbridge


SURREY
NoNameLocation
9Kempton Park RacecourseSunbury on Thames
57Merrow Downs CampGuildford
239Westonacres CampWoodmansterne, Banstead
275Topsite CampThames Ditton
674CamberleyBagshot
681Kempton Park RacecourseSunbury on Thames
1016Camberley (PC)Bagshot


SWINDON
NoNameLocation
674Stratton FactorySwindon


TELFORD & WREKIN
NoNameLocation
1004Wellington------


THURROCK
NoNameLocation
286Purfleet & Romford------
654No 4 POW Transit CampPurfleet
655No 4 POW Transit CampPurfleet


TRAFFORD
NoNameLocation
189Dunham ParkAltrincham


WARWICKSHIRE
NoNameLocation
6Long MarstonStratford on Avon
25Leamington Spa (GPC)------
31Ellington ParkNewbold Upon Stour, Stratford on Avon
39Castle MaxstokeColeshill
97Birdingbury------
140Racecourse CampWarwick
195Merevale HallAtherstone
196Arbury HallNuneaton
241Merevale HallAtherstone
685Long MarstonStratford on Avon
1005Willoughby (PC)Rugby


WEST BERKSHIRE
NoNameLocation
25Lodge FarmFarncombe Down, Lambourne
88Mortimer------
246Pangbourne------
1001Thatcham (PC)Newbury


WEST SUSSEX
NoNameLocation
46Kingsfold CampBillingshurst
238BrookhouseApringly, Hayward’s Heath
658Barn House FarmShipley, Horsham


WIGAN
NoNameLocation
50Garswood ParkAshton in Makersfield


WILTSHIRE
NoNameLocation
23Le Marchant CampDevizes
52Colderton (GPC)Amesbury
89Easton Grey CampMalmesbury
114Eden Vale CampWestbury
160Lydiard ParkPurton
289Lydiard HouseLydiard Millicent
402Lopscombe Corner CampSalisbury
410Le Marchant CampDevizes
658Westbury------
668Aliwal BarracksNorth Tidworth
671Salisbury------
671Largo CampLarkhill, Salisbury


WINDSOR & MAIDENHEAD
NoNameLocation
7Winter QuartersAscot, Windsor


WOKHAM
NoNameLocation
135Stanbury HouseSpencer’s Wood


WORCESTERSHIRE
NoNameLocation
277South LittletonEvesham
277Fladbury Golf CourseFladbury, Pershore
287Perdiswell HallWorcester
687Shotover HouseWorcester
689Great Malvern------


YORKSHIRE
NoNameLocation
162Naeburn (MH)------

KEY
PC- Processing Camp
GPC- General Processing Camp
MH-Main Holding Camp
GH-General Holding Camp
CHC- Command Holding Cage

iSome derelict huts may still exist.
iiOne concrete ablutions hut remains at NS79186 81914
iiiA single hut, converted into a chapel and decorated by Italian prisoners, survives.
ivAlso known as Cowden Camp, this site survives as Cultybraggan Training Camp at NN7680 1980.
vHut No. 9 survives as a visitor attraction.
viNone of these camps were established until after the islands were liberated by the British Army in May 1945.
viiPartly survives as a visitor attraction.
viiiSurvives completely intact as a major visitor attraction.
ixExact location uncertain.

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Comments
By richard griffiths @ 17 October 2006 18:18
Nice collection of information - I have a card from an italian POW with camp no 85 on it dated 1944 - any ideas ?

By Gordon @ 17 October 2006 23:55
Richard,
Thanks-glad you liked the article.
From what I can find, your card is from #85 Victoria Camp, Brandon Hall, Mildenhall. It's demolished now, but its site can still be seen at TL73087665.
It was classed as a standard type German working camp, having been previously used for Italians until the 1943 Armistice. Prisoner accommodation was of standard Ministry of War Production huts of pre-cast concrete panels, 18' 6" wide and 65' in length.

By Rob Whitfield @ 27 December 2006 16:43
Gordon - You seem to know your way around the archive system, I wonder if you could possibly point me in the right direction.
I am trying to trace an Italian POW from a camp in Widnes. Would there be any records of the movement of POW's? Regards Rob

By Gordon @ 29 December 2006 21:30
Rob,
Sorry about the delay, I've been away.
Probably the best place to start is at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RDLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7 . That isn't the end of the story, but it should give you plenty of leads.
You can also try looking for records of the County War Agricultural Committees if you know roughly where your man was, or the records of the Ministry of Labour; although POWs weren't allowed to do "war work", that changed after the Armistice in 1943. Many also joined the British armed forces.
The government tried to bring Italian workers here postwar to replace those former prisoners being repatriated, but many men decided to stay. I don't know much about those particular records though.
As a last resort, you could always contact the Red Cross at www.icrc.org, and see what they can suggest.
Cheers, Gordon

By sylvia kendrick @ 14 September 2007 17:05
Rob or Gordon, Trying to find information about an Army/Marines camp in Faringdon, Berkshire circa 1944. The camp was called Buttsclose camp, but I have received a message that it was also a POW camp. I have looked at your list for Berkshire and Oxfordshire as Faringdon is now part of Oxon. but it is not mentioned.
I am trying to establish which Regiment was based at the camp to track down a great uncle who was there in 1944.
regards, SylviaK

By Gordon @ 19 December 2007 01:19
Sylvia,
Apologies for not seeing this sooner. I'll see what I can turn up, but i might be worthwhile for you to look at the NA website (www.nas.gov.uk) and find a researcher to do a bit of delving for you. What you want to check are the weekly/monthly Returns on the Strength of the British Army 1939-47.
The early war years are kinda messy, but by 1944 there were so many troops in Britain that these returns were published under each individual regiment and show their dispositions worldwide.
You could also try reaching the Defence of Britain Project database through the main webpage.

By sarah kennell @ 23 March 2008 19:58
Hi, I'm trying to find out information on the Proteus Training Camp in Budby and it's uses during world war 2. My late Grandma always talked of my Grandad working there as a storeman in WW2, while it was used as a training camp, although i have heard from some people that it was a POW camp. Can anyone shed any light on this?
Thanks

By Euplio Mastrangelo @ 12 April 2008 00:00
Hello Gordon. This site was sent to me by a friend who has been helping me find info about my father's pow days. According to info from the red cross he was in camp 90 and camp 701 in the UK. I note that the camp numbers were sometimes changed. I did not see either of these camp numbers on the page I viewed. Can you comment. Thanks. Armando

By Gordon @ 14 April 2008 16:13
Sarah,
I can't find much info on Budby at all. It may have been briefly used to hold prisoners 1945-47.

By Gordon @ 14 April 2008 16:37
Hi Euplio.
Camp 90 at Friday Bridge is on both the list and the map, so you may just have overlooked it. It is now an agricultural hostel-
www.calor.co.uk/about-calor/press-room/calor-caters-for-camp-international-flavour.htm
As for Camp #701, it seems to have disappeared! I'm in the proces of updating the list as and when I get the time, so it will re-appear soon.
Please keep checking, and let me know how your search goes.

By Euplio Mastrangelo @ 17 April 2008 00:23
Thanks Gordon. I did overlook camp 90 on your list, but I had found it elsewhere and knew it was at Friday Bridge. I will keep checking your site.

By Thomas Pecorino @ 29 April 2008 03:23
Hello. I am looking for some help in tracking downinformation about a former German P.O.W, who after the war kept correspondance with my grandfather(a U.S. Army Guard) while he was still in the camp. I have his camp number (259 Weekley Kettering) and his name. and the date he was there. He was first in an American camp then shipped to England. I have no idea where to begin looking. Can someone point me in the right direction please...thanks so much for any help.

By Gordon @ 29 April 2008 15:29
Hi Thomas,
That's quite a task. As you probably know all PoWs were repatriated by 1948, but not all chose to go home. You could try writing to the local newspapers in Northants asking for information-
www2.northantsnews.com/splashpage/
If that doesn't work, this leaflet from the National Archives in London might give you a few pointers-
www.nationlarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7
There are two WW2 forums you could try posting in too; someone might just know something-
www.ww2f.com
www.ww2talk.com
Let me know how you get on.

Regards,
Gordon


By Gordon @ 29 April 2008 15:31
Sorry, typo-
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7

By LOUISE MILLER @ 09 May 2008 18:58
Hello Gordon: I wonder if you might be able to help with a "missing persons" query. A woman in Poland is trying to find out what happened to her father. The family lost contact with him in 1947. His last known address was "Kiltarlity, Teznaeab Camp, by Beauly, Inverness". Do you have a record of any such camp, and any suggestions about how best to help her?

Thanks,


Louise

By Gordon @ 10 May 2008 02:11
Hi Louise,
It's not a subject I know much about myself, unfortunately, but leave it with me and I'll see what I can find.
The National Archives has a guide to the PRC- www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/familyhistory/guide/migrantancestors/polish.htm
There is also a website run by people whose parents were Polish DPs (Dislaced Persons)-
www.northwickparkpolishpdcamp.co.uk. They might be able to help further.
As I say, leave it with me and I'll post any info I can find here.

By ada pluda @ 12 June 2008 09:00
Hi Gordon,
I hope you, or any body else, can help me to find a description or photos of camp 48 Greenfield farm, Presteigne, where my late father was held from beginning of 1943 to May 1946. I remember my father telling us that they were taken to a forest(?) to cut trees. Was that a real farm? Or just a name for such place? I would be very grateful for any info.

By Gordon @ 12 June 2008 10:55
Hi Ada,
According to the Welsh National Monuments Record camp #48 was built in 1943 on land belonging to Capt Lewis RN of Clatterbrune House, Presteigne. It may have been a farm originally, but the camp has been demolished and the site is now a football ground, the home of Presteigne St. Andrews FC. (Llanandas Park, Llanandas being the Welsh name for Presteigne).
The town is surrounded by woods and forests, so your father could have literally worked anywhere in the area. You could try contacting Presteigne Tourist information office at info@judgeslodging.org.uk, they may be able to help with photos and more information.
Hope this helps.

By ada pluda @ 13 June 2008 19:14
Hi Gordon,
Thank you very much. It did help! I will get in touch with the tourist office and see if they know more. My father was held before in camp #8 (from January to April 1943) but there are two camps with that number. Do you have any idea? Just a transit camp?

By Gordon @ 13 June 2008 23:29
Hi Ada,
Camp #8 at Mile House, Oswestry was a base camp, or glorified transit camp, meaning they supplied working camps and hostels. The other camp #8 at Shifnal was a working camp. This is closer to Presteigne, but I would put my money on your father being in Oswestry first.
You mght get more info from the Oswestry Tourist Ofice at Mile End, Oswestry, Shropshire SY11 4J.
Please let me know how your research goes.

By Gordon @ 13 June 2008 23:30
Sorry, the full postcode is SY11 4JA.

By ada pluda @ 14 June 2008 15:03
Hi Gordon, thanks a lot for your help. It's just like a jigsaw where you have to find missing pieces....I'll let you know how it goes on.
Don't know if this is the right section but on what concerns Italian pows I would suggest to all those trying to find the camp(s) where their relatives were kept to have a look at http://www.icrc.org/eng/contact-archives
This was how I found all my father's records

By Virginia Kuzmicki @ 16 July 2008 15:14
To Louise Miller re Polish Camp in Kiltarlity.
I am originally from Kiltarlity and my father Adam Kuzmicki was a Polish DP.
Please let me know how I can help as I may be able to investigate locally.
Virginia Kuzmicki
virginia.kuzmicki@dial.pipex.com

By Virginia Kuzmicki @ 16 July 2008 15:17
Gordon, you may not have noticed you have a type in your url for the dp camp.

www.northwickparkpolishdpcamp.co.uk

By Gordon @ 16 July 2008 18:14
Thanks Virginia,
I completely missed that typo! Thanks for offering extra sources as well.

By freskin dundemore @ 20 September 2008 15:44
quite new to this site.Trying to find whether in fact the army camp that 16th Durham Light inf. set up in 1940 in the grounds of Morton Hall , Midlothian was ever used as a POW camp. Many of the concrete hut-bases are still there, although many have been built over. the Klondyke garden centre is built over part of the field, and the access road to Mortonhall Camping and caravan site cuts through part of it. It's only about 5 miles from \edinburgh City centre. Any ideas, anyone,please?

By Gordon @ 22 September 2008 02:40
Freskin,
It was indeed a PoW camp, probably after D-Day. Immediately after the war it was also used as a Displaced persons camp.

By Gordon @ 02 October 2008 19:03
To Louise Miller-
I have now had information telling me that Kiltarlity camp was originally used by the Canadian Forestry Corps, then passed to the Polish Resettlement Corps postwar.
It was known as "Paterson's Camp" as it became a sawmill run a Polish gentleman who took his wife's surname. The ruins of the camp still exist.

By George Verhaere @ 04 October 2008 12:57
I am seeking information regarding my uncle Johannes Willemen, a Dutch Merchant Navy Officer, who acted as an intepreter for the British Prisoner of War Camps at either Thames Ditton or Weston Acres Camp Bandstead, 1943. Mainly used in New Malden Surrey.

By Sasha Jones @ 12 October 2008 20:34
Re: ada pluda

Did you have any luck finding info on Greenfield Farm?

By Daniel Johnson @ 14 October 2008 15:37
Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone can help me?

I am trying to find any information about a POW camp that was in Creech Wood, Denmead, Hampshire after D-Day. This is near where I live and the remains are still there, yet this camp isn't mentioned on any records that I have found. The only mention of the camp is this from Wikipedia:

"In the run up to D-Day many American and Canadian troops, including U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower, camped under the cover of local forests. Nearby Creech Wood also housed a prisoner of war camp, some remains of which can still be found in the undergrowth"

Can anyone help?

By Simon H @ 23 October 2008 16:31
There were many small camps that aren't listed. I know of two within 5 miles of my front door, one was former site of searchlight battery - then housed Italian PW, the other was a former barracks site taken over to house German PW.

By Gordon @ 23 October 2008 17:05
Simon,
It's a problem I keep coming across myself. If you have a list of camps, send them to me at the_historian@talk21.com, and I'll update the list when I get the chance.

By George Verhaere @ 26 October 2008 13:15
Gordon, did you get my question regarding Johan Willemen who was an Interpreter in a POW Camp?? I have not seen any reply on your site............George Verhaere

By Gordon @ 26 October 2008 15:45
George,
I've been delving as much as I can, but I can't seem to turn up anything on this particular man.
You might be better reading the guide to PoW records on this site and trying to obtain the camp diaries of the places he was employed. You might have more luck there.

By John Billingham @ 28 October 2008 18:38
Hi just a quick note for your records. Under Herefordshire POW camps you have Royston Heath Listed this is in fact in Hertfordshire not Herefordshire.
Also the location of the Ledbury POW camp in under the John Masefield School.

By Gordon @ 28 October 2008 22:40
Thanks for that, John! I'll try and sort the records out when I get the chance.

@ 17 November 2008 14:29
Comments from the following blog entry: http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/great-britain/16229-luftwaffe-pow-camp-blackheath.html#post157458

By anna wood @ 26 December 2008 04:44
Hello Gordon,just trying to pick your brain,my dad was a German POW,do you have any idea of where I might obtain a list of POW`s names,who were held in Leeds?,
My mum met him in Leeds winter 46/47 digging out the ice from pavements,there were two POW camps in Leeds area,Post Hill,Farnly,I know that area, and Butcher Hill which I have no idea what area of Leeds it was in? unless you can help me with area,my mum and her sister both went out with the POW`s,and they lived in the Bramley area of Leeds,can you please offer me any clues?
Thank you so much

By Gordon @ 26 December 2008 14:19
Hi Anna,
Your best bet would be to search the National Archives for the County War Agricultural Executive Committee files for Yorkshire.
These would contain details of requests for PoW labour from farmers in the various Ridings, the CWAEC replies & bills, and hopefully details of each individual prisoner sent.
If you can't actually manage to Kew, their site provides links to reputable researchers who will be able to obtain the files for you at reasonable cost.
Let me know how you get on.

By darren minshall @ 28 December 2008 21:28
does any one have pics or a plan of Flaxley Green pow camp in rugeley? theres a big field there, but often wondered its precise location and set up ect?

By anna wood @ 30 December 2008 05:17
Hello Gordon, anna here thank you so much for the advice about Kew,I am planning a trip up there as its only 30 mins by train and I have my discount rail and free bus pass ,I am an OAP and computer illiterate lol,so if I cant find anything I will take your advice and get someone a researcher who knows what they are doing,but thanks for your much appreciated help ,I will let you know if I have any success,thank you

By Amy Murphy @ 31 December 2008 15:22
Hi Gordon,

I am new to this site, so hope you won't mind me mailing you and asking for any assistance you can offer me.

My father was a German POW during WW2 and was held in 3 camps in the UK (Horncastle in Lincolshire, Scriven Hall, Knaresborough (in the West Riding of Yorkshire), and Ripon in Yorkshire) between 1946 - 1948 when he was released.

I am trying to obtain a list of the POWs held in these camps, to enable me 1) to confirm that my Dad was held there and 2) to identify which of the German Armed Forces he served with.

My Dad passed away in April of this year, and I knew almost nothing of his military service, and what I have discovered since his death, has been through many hours of research, but I now seem to have reached a wall - any info you can help me with would be great and I would be most grateful.

Thanks in advance G
Amy

By Gordon @ 01 January 2009 14:21
Hi Amy,
Can't do much more than reiterate my advice about the CWAEC records for Yorkshire, I'm afraid, although you could also try the local archives service.
You could also try contacting the Deutche Dienstelle (WASt), Postfache 51-06-7, D-13400, Berlin. They might have information on your father's service records.

By Mike Melnyk @ 02 January 2009 09:26
Good Morning Gordon,

regarding the site of the POW camp at Mousehold Heath. The map you have is incorrect.
The actual site of the camp backed onto what is now HM Prison Know Road, Norwich.
The original army camp was built here and used to house prisoners in the late 1940'2 including Ukrainians from the 14 Galician Division of the Waffen-SS. As the prison expanded, the outlying existing builds - just outside the prison fence were used by the prison and the local city authority as storage facilities - for example I recall seeing props for the prison xmas production stored there. As a child I used to visit the site with my friends and collect spent bullet casings from the firing range (part of which still exisits). Over the years all by two of the buildings have been demolished. These 2 remaining buildings are visible on the sat pic about a mile away from the suggested site, at the end of Mons Avenue. Information about the site seems to be hard to come by - possibly because it is so close to the HMP site.

best wishes

Mike Melnyk

By Gordon @ 02 January 2009 19:18
Thanks for that, Mike.
A lot of the original data was taken from the English Heritage PoW Camps 1939-48 Project, which didn't pretend to be completely comprehensive, so I'm always grateful for people pointing out errors in our lists.
I'm primarily concerned with locating all camps in Scotland, so I'm still way behind in both listing Welsh camps in greater detail, and updating the existing English and NI lists.
At some unspecified point in the future, I also want to do more research on PoW employment.....but that's at the bottom of a VERY long list!

By Adam Talmey @ 05 January 2009 16:36
Gordon

I have seen two large concrete blocks (they look as if they indicated a gateway into a field across a small ditch), one has been written in when made.
POW camp 262 1947
After a number of years of walking the dog past this, I have, at last done somthing about it.
I have looked on your listing and this would indicate Langar Barnstone camp 262 I guess.
The thing is these blocks are situated in farmland in Eastwood Nottinghamshire, approx 25miles away from Barnstaone.
Can you shed any light?
I will photograph should you wish for your records
Your work has been very helpful
Kind Regards

Adam Talmey

By Gordon @ 05 January 2009 21:38
Adam,
I would certainly be interested in photos of the blocks, and in particular the inscriptions.
I can only guess that someone decided to liberate the blocks, either for sentimental reasons or just spur of the moment because they "might come in handy"!

By Theodore Dengel @ 21 January 2009 10:09
Hello Gordon,
I have spent 2 years at the North Mundham PoW Camp, nr.Chichester. There were over 500 men there during 46/47 - all working on the land.
The Commandant was Captain Brill, an extraordinary officer, whose leadership resulted in relaxed and friendly conditions in the Camp.
There is a lot to tell - but I cannot find any reference anywhere on the web to this camp - which seems a pity (it was nominally a satellite of the dour place Billingshurst - No.46).
Do you know why there are no public records?
Theo Dengel

By Gordon @ 31 January 2009 00:25
Hi Theodore,
If you go to the article entitled "A Guide to PoW Records" it should give you an idea of where to look for the camp's official war diary at Kew. I think they would be in the WO (War Office) series, but I would be guessing at the exact file number I'm afraid.
It may just be the case that the camp isn't well known enough to inspire a website/book on the subject.
Have you tried the local council archives to see if they have info? It might be worth a try.
I would be interested in recording your memories for my own records, if that's ok with you?

By Gordon @ 31 January 2009 00:31
Theodore,
Camp diaries can be found in the following files-
WO199/404-409
WO177/1833-1855
You might also find some info in the Prisoner of War Information Bureau files in WO307

By dawn smith @ 06 March 2009 16:04
Hi, Gordon and Theo, i wonder if you can help me, my grandmother had a relationship with a man at the North Mundon POW camp in 1948, my mother was born in 1949, all we can find out is that his 1st name was Joseph and he was yugoslavian, i have tried the national archives for any information but have been unsucessful, i would desperatly like to know more about him and who he was, all my grandmothers sisters said was that he was a very good looking man and that he had an eye for the ladies, my grandmother wont talk about it at all, and as Theo was at the camp im wondering if he may have known him or known of him....I know its a long shot but i cant get any list of the detainees anywhere....please can anyone help me and my mother find out where we come from...Many thanks

By Theodore Dengel @ 07 March 2009 16:50
Attn Dawn Smith:
Re Your enquiry how to trace your grandfather.
I'm afraid I can't help a lot. You mention a camp near N. Mundon: I believe that's in Essex. I have no idea whether there was a PoW Camp there.
I was the labour organiser at North Mundham, near Chichester in West Sussex. To the best of my knowledge there were no Yugoslav PoWs in the UK. But at North Mundham several hundred arrived in the autumn of 1948 and they stayed there until the autumn 1949. The Yogoslavs were
regarded as DPs ( Displaced Persons) They had fought alongside the German armies during WWII
and after the end of the war they would have been shot by Titos people as traitors, had they returned to their counrty. Hence many thousands were held in camps in Austria &
Germany; pending their relocation; but they were not treated as Prisoners of War by the British or the Americans. When a contingent arrived at North Mundham, they were given jobs on farms in the coastal area of West Sussex; they had to register with the Police as "Aliens" -and if they wanted to leave the area & move elsewhere, they had to report at the Police station in Chichester. As far as I can remember, most of these men tried to obtain visas to emigrate to Canada, Australia or South America.
Very few stayed on in England.
Has your mother not got her birth certificate?
That ought to show the father's surname. Josepf is the anglicised version if his native Christian name: Josip, and I suspect that would have been the name on your grandfather's idendity card.
If your grandfather's name is shown on your mother's birth certificate, you might find out more from the national archives at Kew in the police records of 1948/50. If you can't trace his surname, I doubt whether you can find out any more information. I personally, did not make friends with any of these chaps and I don't remember any individuals.
Sorry I can't be more helpful. Theo

By Gordon @ 07 March 2009 19:10
Dawn,
I can't do any better than the info that Theo has given you. I can't find any info on Yugoslav PoWs or the camp, and I have nothing at all on DP camps.
You could try writing an open letter to the local paper in North Mundham to see if it jogs memories, and contact the local council archives.
Sorry we couldn't help more.

By Gordon @ 07 March 2009 19:17
Dawn,
I can't do any better than the info that Theo has given you. I can't find any info on Yugoslav PoWs or the camp, and I have nothing at all on DP camps.
You could try writing an open letter to the local paper in North Mundham to see if it jogs memories, and contact the local council archives.
Sorry we couldn't help more.

By Georg Sieffert @ 17 March 2009 02:27
Hi Gordon and Theo,
my father was a german pow between 46 and 48 in camp 108 in thirkleby, thirsk. Now he (84 years) is willing to come to yorkshire. So he and his 3 sons (I'm one of them) will look for his past as pow at the end of April. Our problem is that he can't remember the farms were he was working but it was around "east witton". Do you have an idear how we can find out on witch farms he was working?
Best Regards - Georg

By Gordon @ 17 March 2009 21:06
Hi Georg,
I had a look at a 1914 map of East Witton at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/indexmappage2.aspx
Unfortunately the 1929 and 1938 maps of the area are incomplete.
There are 3 farms currently listed-
Fleets farm
Lowthorpe Farm
East Wiitton
But there may have been more there during the war.
This will give you some more info on the village-
http://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/east-witton_conservation_area_character_appraisal_27-11-01_with_map.pdf
I don't know if you would be interested, but Eden Camp in Yorkshire is a former PoW camp which has been turned into a museum-
http://www.edencamp.co.uk
If your father would like to share his memories with me for my research, I would be extremely grateful. If he finds the idea too painful, I completely understand, but otherwise you can contact me at:
the_historian@talk21.com
I hope ll this is useful to you, and that you and your father enjoy your visit.

By Georg Sieffert @ 20 March 2009 21:33
Hi Gordon,

I'll meet my father next week and talk to him.
You will get an answer asap. Thanks for your help so far.
Best Regards - Georg

By Iain Banks @ 23 March 2009 13:54
Can anyone help me with information about Patterton Camp near Thornliebank, Glasgow? There is apparently a story that the camp was built as an ANZAC camp in WWI, which explains why it was relatively luxurious. Is this true? Does anyone know anything about its construction?

By Gordon @ 24 March 2009 15:06
Hi Ronnie,
Can't tell you much about this camp unfortunately.
It's listed as World War II Prisoner-of-war camp 660, though this refers to a German Working Company rather than the camp. The camp housed both Italian and German prisoners. Following the war the camp was occupied by the Polish Resettlement Corps until 1949, the buildings remaining intact until at least 1960. Surviving remains include up to 71 hut bases in 2007, many badly damaged by tree growth and one or two other unidentified structures. Camp occupied by squatters from time to time until the buildings were removed in 1960.
With regards to the ANZAC camp, you might try posting a query on http://www.1914-1918.net, or contact the Scottish Military History Society.

By Gordon @ 24 March 2009 15:09
I beg your pardon Iain! iI appear to have changed your name by deed poll-my apologies!

By Kristin Richardson @ 26 March 2009 16:00
Hi All!

I have joined this forum because I want to establish where my German grandfather was POW in England. I have contacted the Red Cross in Switzerland, but still can't make out where exactly he was located.
I am hoping someone in this forum might be able to point me in the right direction.

My grandfather was POW at camp 296 which has apparently 3 locations near Sheffield(1-Potter's Hill, High Green; 2-Ravensfield Park Camp, Rotherham; 3-Racecourse Doncaster). I can not establish which one of the three he was at... The only thing I have that may help to identify his location is a different POW camp number "2375" (Camp 6).

If anyone can help, I would much appreciate it.

Thank you!

Best Regards,
Kristin


By Gordon @ 27 March 2009 17:32
Kristin-
It's important to remember that not all of those camps would have been numbered #296 at the same time.
Doncaster racecourse was a base camp; this was in effect a holding camp, where men would have been moved to other work camps/farms as required.
All the other camps you mentioned were work camps, or satellites. What makes it even more confusing is that there was also a work camp (#296a) at Doncaster race course itself!
We know he was in that general area, but do you have any other info that might help tie it down to a particular camp/location?

By Kristin Richardson @ 27 March 2009 20:07
Hi Gordon,

Thank you for answering so promptly! My grandfather's name was Martin Boernge (born 14/12/1910), his POW number was 660925. Yes, he was at a German working camp (No. 296 as mentioned). I have got his dictionary, that's where the information originates from, and this dictionary is officially signed by someone called "Gordon T R S...lly" (I can't read the last name properly). He was stationed at this camp from March 1945 to May 1948.

I also have a copy of "Form for personal peculiars" which is stamped what seems to be referred to as camp "AR9072", "2375 POW Camp".

On another piece of information from the Red Cross it reads "Internment Camp or Hospital No. 6". His unit is there quoted as "Wachtmeister, 6./II./Flakregiment 21". His service number is quoted as "58, Flak.reg. 133".

Maybe you will understand what some of that means.

Thank you soo much for your help.

Best Wishes,
Kristin



By Gordon @ 28 March 2009 14:32
Hi Kristen-
I can decipher some of that. I'm not too well up on German military terms, but "Wachtmeister" was the rank of Sergeant-Major, who would have been the senior Non-Commissioned Officer in an artillery battery. The numbers varied, but a battery was usually four guns.
"Flak" (Flieger Abwehr Kanone) meant anti-aircraft artillery- and apologies for the poor German grammar. The digits at the end of his serial number are the regiment/s he was attached to. If you Google his regiments you might find out where and when he was captured, as well as what kind of guns they used.
There were light flak regiments with 20mm cannon, medium regiments with 88mm guns, and heavy regiment with larger calibre guns. The latter were usually stationed in flakturm in cities.
I'll have to look the rest of it up for you, but I hope that's given you a few clues.

By Gordon @ 28 March 2009 14:39
Ok,
Found these snippets on both Flak regiments.
http://www.ww2.dk/ground/flak/flargt21.html
http://www.ww2.dk/ground/flak/flargt133.html
They might give you a better perspective.

By Gordon @ 31 March 2009 14:49
Kristen-
Camp 2375 seems to have been an Allied camp at Zedelghem in Belgium. I found this snippet on it-
http://www.latvians.com/en/Exile/Zedelgem/envelope-ZB.php
Haven't turned up anything on the rest of it yet though.

By Joseph` Ritson @ 14 April 2009 13:11
I have been researching some events and people who were at the Displaced Persons YMCA Hostel at Moota (situated between Aspatria and Cockermouth, Cumberland). The primary purpose is to remember two DPs from Eastern Europe who died while living at the Hostel in 1947. I am also going to write an article about these two gentlemen for the 2ndWW Blog so they are remembered.

Does anyone have any personal information they could share about the camp during this period please? The site was constructed in 1942 as Moota POW Camp (POW Camp No 103). Between 1942 and early 1944 the POWs were mainly Italians. From 1944 to some time in 1946 they were mainly German POWs. Many of the POWs worked at local farms trhoughout North ans West Cumberland. One of the German POWs worked at a farm across the road from my granparents' home.

After the Germans were repatriated it seems Moota Camp became a YMCA Hostel for Displaced Persons from Eastern Europe (Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic countries). Mainly, I think these fellows had been offered the opportunity to work on local farms as volunteers but under set contractual terms. This seemed to happen between 1947 and 1950, and it is this period I am concentrating on at this particular time.

As is often the case with research of this nature, there are little snippets in various places, such as the County and National Archives etc. Perhaps someone has a personal or family connection with the Hostel between 1947 and 1950 who would be prepared to share something about what happened during this period?


By Gordon @ 14 April 2009 17:35
Hi Joseph,
Sounds a worthwhile project.
You could also try the following websites-
http://www.ww2f.com
http://www.ww2talk.com
There's also the BBC's People's War website which is now closed, but might have some useful things.
Have you read "Moota Camp 103" by Gloria Edwards? If not, I have a copy and Ill see what I can turn up.

By Richard Ashton @ 18 April 2009 08:56
Hello Gordon,

What a mammoth task you've taken on!

I have some conflicting information for you, which I'll set out as concisely as I can.

I was 10 in 1945 when mother and I were allowed back into the UK, having been kicked off the steamer at Cape Town in (I think) 1941.

My father retired in the very early fifties... Colonel - or maybe Lieutenant-Colonel John Forbes Ashton, of the Border Regiment (depot at Carlisle). His penultimate command was 258 Working POW camp at Seething Airfield. Mother and I lived on camp with him except when I was away at boarding school. I remember the very cold winter of whatever year, and the men were unable to work part of the time because of the weather. Considerable part of their agricultural work was with sugar-beet.

Now for the conflicting info. I have seen online two different locations for 186 Base Camp.

I can assure you when dad commanded it, it was at Fornham Park, a couple of miles north of Bury St. Edmunds in Suffolk. He retired from there.

I have a personal memory of being taught as maybe a 14yo how to thread 35mm acetate film on to movie projectors inthe camp theatre that was there, one film being "Of Mice and Men", hardly appropriate for a young lad :)

Dad retired from there and mother and he went to live in Beyton, 5 miles to the east of Bury on the A45. I am absolutely certain of the camp number and its location.

On a visit to the UK in 1990 from Australia where I now live, my Australian wife and I visited Fornham Park. It appears to have been abandoned ever since the war, though some evidence of huts having been there remain.

I hope you may be able to clarify the points I have made.

Richard Ashton.
Adelaide, South Australia

By Gordon @ 19 April 2009 12:38
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the info. Camp numbers varied over time, and obviously they weren't all in use at the same time. Some numbers became dormant when camps closed, and were then re-issued when a new one opened. It can be incredibly confusing!
At least you've helped to identify one particular camp at a particular period, which is always the hard part part, so thanks for that.

By David Addy @ 27 May 2009 17:23
Hi Richard Ashton,
I have been trying to find out about the camp at Fornham St Genevieve for some time. It seems to have been an army camp during the war, but at some late point it was designated as a POW camp, or maybe a transit camp for prisoners on their way back to Germany.
I have an envelope dated 9.5.48 postmarked POW Camp No 186 Great Britain, with a handwritten note saying POW mail Postage free. On the back is a note of the sender. It says Burchet 186 PW camp Fornham Park nr Bury St Edmunds Suffolk GB.
This all supports what you say, and clearly the number 186 has been re-used or duplicated.
I would like to hear any further details you can remember about the camp. EG how many POWs, what soldiers guarded it and any dates you may be able to fix.
There does not seem to be any local knowledge of this camp as far as I can ascertain here. Everyone remembers the local POW camp being at Hardwick Heath in Bury St Edmunds, and Fornham Park being for tank training etc, but clearly its use changed possibly after hostilities ended.
Best wishes,
David Addy

By Lia Borrotzu @ 10 June 2009 12:49
I have many pieces of artisan work made by Italians who were interned in enemy alien camps. My grandfather always told me that he had avoided being interned because he 'knew' the local policeman. Also my father told me that many of his side of the family were not only interned but had much of their property confiscated - by this I mean buildings, land etc. These were not returned after the war. Would like to know more about confiscation etc.

By Ralph Koenker @ 13 July 2009 09:00
My father has a pow card from "No 99 Prisoners of War Hospital, Shugborough Park, Great Haywood"
can you tell me if any of the buildings still exist ?

By Gordon @ 17 July 2009 18:33
Not that I'm aware of Ralph, but I'll pleased for someone to prove me wrong!

By maria townsend @ 21 July 2009 20:58
Re: resetlement camp in Aylesbury, Bucks.
My Polish father was in Aylesbury after the war. I was always under the impression that he was at Bicester, but my sister thinks it was in Aylesbury. Does anyone know the nearest camp to Aylesbury or Bicester, or anyone that was in these camps?

By Gordon @ 02 August 2009 02:33
Maria-
I would try this website before anything else:
http://www.feldgrau.com
If that doesn't work, go to the article on a guide to PoW records in this forum, and write to the German Bundesarchiv.
Hope this helps.

By Gordon @ 02 August 2009 02:34
sorry-ignore that last post. Wrong article!

By martin newman @ 09 August 2009 10:11
hi, my dad was in a camp near ely, cambs.
............?wood(s) farm. at the latter part and after the war. he died in 1976 when i was 12. not much info about that part of his life. he lied about his age to get away from hitler youth heavies. he was eukrainian. ended up waffen-ss conscript.
then at ely. do not know how. but finding evidence of the camp is a start if any info is available.could anyone help me please?
martin

By Gordon @ 28 August 2009 01:22
Hi Martin,
Welcome to the forums.
I can't a find a camp of that name near Ely, just these two;
26 Barton Field Camp
130 West Fen Militia
Could be that prisoners from one camp worked on that farm. Both camps are completely gone now, unfortunately.
If you go follow this link-
http://www.online-archaeology.co.uk/Contribute/ArchaeologyArticles/tabid/85/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/22/Default.aspx
it will hopefully give you a few starting points for further research.
Sorry I couldn't be more help.

By Alasdair Cameron @ 01 September 2009 23:49
To Louise Miller & Virginia Kuzmick
The camp at Kiltarlity was known as "Lovat No1 Teanacoil" and was one of three Canadian Timber Corps camps in the area before it became a POW camp.

By suzanne magrey @ 09 September 2009 05:01
looking for my sisters father,Canadian Soldier Frank Kelly ww2 based at Blair Atholl Forestry
Cashier Payroll Officer, any info would be very much appreciated.

By Helen Cullum @ 28 October 2009 10:09
Hello

I am trying to trace two Italian brothers who were Italian POWs are known to have worked on a farm near Welford in Northamptonshire during 1945. I know very little about them other than their christian names - Victorio and Umberto. Where is the best place to start in finding which camp they may have been placed at and identifying their surname? Were POWs placed on farms in the same county as their encampment or could they have been placed in an adjoining county based on proximity to the nearest camp? Are the County War Agricultural records likely to list names? Sorry - so many questions!

Thanks

By Gordon @ 01 November 2009 17:15
Hi Helen,
Prisoners were usually - but not always- allocated work in the same county as their camp, as work was controlled by the local County Agricultural Executive Committee.
Having said that, if there was a labour shortage in a neighbouring county, there were instances of them being transferred to another camp.
As you probably know, this is very much an ongoing project of mine.
The CWAEC records might list the names you want, but it's unlikely. What you might be better doing is contacting your local council archives and trawling the wartime records there.
Sorry I couldn't help more.

By Helen Forbes @ 02 November 2009 16:34
Hi Gordon

Really interested to see all the work you've been doing, and amazed at how many leads you've been able to uncover for people doing this kind of research. On this basis I'd like to pick your brains - I hope you don't mind!...

I am trying to trace what happened to my grandfather who was a German POW. We know quite a bit from doing our own research, but we have a significant gap in knowledge around what happened between his arriving at Milford Haven and ending up at the family farm in North Wales (near Llanrwst), and then what date he went back to Germany and how.

We can only assume he would have been sent at some point to Pabo Hall, and from there to the farm. We know from family in the area that there was at least one POW hostel in Llanrwst (they refer to it as a camp, but it must have been a satellite hostel). I know very little about PAbo Hall, how many were held there, how they ended up on the farms, when they were repatriated etc, or how they got to Pabo Hall in the first place...

We know he arrived in Milford Haven on 12th April 1943, on HMS Adventure, having been captured whilst a passenger on Irene (previously called Silvaplana). We know he left the UK some time in early 1947. And obviously we know exactly where he worked!

If you have any ideas about any further leads to fill the gap I would be very grateful, as it would help us to further substantiate that we are pursuing the correct line of enquiry.

Many thanks.

Helen

By Gordon @ 02 November 2009 19:10
Hi Helen,
Not sure I can help much, but here goes.
On arrival he would have been taken to Abergavenny General Processing Centre, where his military unit and political status would have been noted, before he got his PoW classification. He would then have been sent to one of two main holding camps in Wales,
Abergwili or Talgarth.
As circumstances required, he would have transferred to a work camp, which is what Pabo Hall is recorded as being. When work placements were sent to the camp by the County War Agricultural Executive Committee, he would have been sent to the farm (or possibly another place of work).
If you can get to the National Archives, the CWAEC records might have info. Failing thta, try the local council archives and trawl through the nearest burgh/county council records for the war years. These MIGHT turn up PoW billets that you might not have heard of.
Sorry I couldn't be more help, but please do let me know how you get on.

By Helen Forbes @ 03 November 2009 17:23
Hi Gordon

Wow - you really are a mine of information!! That is all really useful - thank you.

I will certainly keep you posted on my progress with this research. My latest find is that the IWM have some film footage of the scuttling of the ship he was on, and the lifeboats of the Germans approaching, so I have ordered that to have a look at. It's amazing what you can find when you start looking, as well as frustrating how long it can take.

Thank you for such a prompt reply.

By roy ainscough @ 25 November 2009 12:47
Gordon? I have just discovered your website which gives me hope that at long last I might trace my sister in law's putative Italian father who was an Italian POW what I now can identify as camp 50 at Garswood Park Ahton in Makerfield .Pleas oh please can you direct me to the location of any camp records .Are these at Kew. Eagerly awaiting your reply
Roy Ainscough

By Gordon @ 02 December 2009 16:53
Hi Roy,
You might find the camp's records through Kew in the following files-
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7&j=1#7. Failing that, try your local council archives for any information.

By Sonja Hoxey @ 04 December 2009 14:19
I have just found this site and the discussion on this site that took place from Jan - Mar 2009 is of great interest to me and my father. My Dad was one of those German POW at the North Mundham PoW Camp, nr.Chichester. He was there from 1946 to 1948. Dad recalls both
The Commandant Captain Brill, Theo Dengel and others. Some years ago Dad participated in a study by the Imperial War Museum recording POW experiences and he retains a key interest in wartime memories. I am currently helping Dad with his research. Although he is now 83, Dad remembers the time well so I am also trying to persuade him to write a structured account of his memories so that we have a permanent record. Dad is also keen to make contact with others with memories of the camp too.

Please contact me if you can help us or think we might be able to help you.

Sonja

By Mary Nolan @ 11 December 2009 18:05
Hi Would anyone know where I could find a list of British regiments involved in POW camps in Scotland? My grandfather was there but we are not sure of his regiment, but it is something along the lines of the Queen's Own Regiment. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!

By Gordon @ 12 December 2009 17:52
Hi Mary,
Welcome to the forums.
At a rough guess, how about the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders?
Best place for that sort of info is the series of files relating to the Adjutant-General's Dept, namely WO73 (Monthly returns for the distribution of the Army), WO32, and WO365.
If you go to the National Archives' website at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk, you'll be able to enter those terms in the search engine and hopefully find the exact one you're looking for.

By Ivan Webb @ 20 December 2009 09:44
Can you please tell me any info about Allington camp 51, my father was a German pow. is it possible to find his home town in Germany? any help please. Ivan

By Anonymous User @ 21 December 2009 17:23
Hi Ivan-
This link should give you a few clues about your father's place of enlistment and service records-
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7&j=1
Allington camp #51 was a working camp near Grantham ,Lincolnshire, and has now been replaced by housing. Prisoners would probably have worked on local farms or sawmills.
Hope this helps.

By John Scarrott @ 27 December 2009 02:27
I have just been given a German POW library book with the name of Langev Wolff 105385 at camp 183 camp, Quorn, Lougborough, Leicester. The book is a copy of Faust written in German. It has some other writting within plus the camp stamp. If any his relatives are alive please contact me and they can have it.

By Rose Chiverton @ 23 January 2010 17:37
Anyone help me with more information on Setley Plain have found loads of leeters my dad wrote to my mum in Italy. have visited the site but can't find anymore info. have visited Imperial war Museum London and found a map. is there any more info?

By Gordon @ 02 February 2010 04:25
Hi Rose,
I found the following links which might be useful for you-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/96/a5866996.shtml
http://www.newforestexplorersguide.co.uk/sitefolders/villages/brockenhurst/setleyplain/setleyplainpage.html
http://www.burntpages.co.uk/Site/Military_Camps_and_Establishments.html

By arnes attenborough @ 13 February 2010 19:44
I am trying to find the name of the camp in Scotland that housed the Polish Resettlement Corps Signals Division. I believe it was near to Forfar or Inverary.

Arnes

By Gordon @ 14 February 2010 01:15
Arnes,
I don't have any information on Polish DPs myself, but you might want to try this website-www.northwickparkpolishdpcamp.co.uk
I know they had a camp at Tezneaeb, near Beauly, Invereness, but that's all.

By Taff Simon @ 15 February 2010 15:02
Hi, Taff here. I'm a newbie so please be gentle :-)

I amparticularly interested in any informationon the following:

Chesters Roman Fort (or rather the bridge abutment) was excavated by Axis POWS c.1946/7. This much is mentioned in Bidwells book on Roman bridges but I have been unable to make any headway on the character/identity of any PoWs involved. I assume they came from Haltwhistle Camp but cannot be sure. Has anyone ever heard of this particular case of PoWs being involved in excavation?

And secondly:

Near the Roman fort of High Rochester was Pow Camp 667 Byrness (also known as Low Byrness). I believe that the site is now home to a caravan park. Does anyone off hand know if this is the case? I'll be contacting the caravan park in due course - just thought I'd ask on the off chance.

Many thanks,

Taff

By Gordon @ 15 February 2010 21:34
Hi Taff-
Welcome to the forums.
I haven't heard that before, but I'd be fascinated to learn more.

By michael dow @ 18 February 2010 22:07
To Louise Miller

Regarding Polish Camp at Teznaeab near Beauly, Inverness. My father was at that camp. I recently walked to the camp but it is almost all gone. The man who stayed on and ran it as a sawmill was a Polish veteran who I called affectionately 'Uncle John'. He didn't take his wife's name Paterson as suggested in a later post. His wife was also Polish but lived in London where John eventually retired to. The name change was just to make it easier as he traded his wood in the local area.

By julie czornenkyj @ 21 March 2010 13:19
Hi Gordan,

I wonder if you can pointg me in the right direction. My Father in Law came to England in 1948, he was Ukranian/Polish? and his registration card says he came from Italy. He was sent to Pingley farm camp which I know was a POW camp, but I am not sure if it wasx still a POW camp in 1948 or what catergory person would have been sent there. Any ideas? If anyone has any information his name was Stefan Czornenkyj.

Kind regards, Julie

By Gordon @ 22 March 2010 18:24
Hi Julie,
Welcome to the forums.
I think Pingley Farm had returned to being a hostel for agricultural workers by 1948. You could try the General Register Office for dates when your father became a naturalised citizen etc, or your council archives (I'm presuming you're in Britain?!).
Best shot might be a letter to the local paper asking if anyone has information; you would be surprised how often that's all you need.

By Derry Graham @ 13 May 2010 20:01
Hi Gordon,
In our family we have several german military items which came from Wilton Park. I believe they relate to high ranking officer(s) of luftwaffe General Leutnant status. Is it possible to get a list of such officers held there during the second world war? We also have a painting with the initials M F and '44 on it. It would be interesting to try to identify which inmate may have done this. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks in anticipation
derry graham

By Gordon @ 14 May 2010 19:04
Hi Derry,
Not entirely sure if such a list exists, though you could try the National Archives.
There are also several books on Wilton Park which might help-
http://ukbookworld.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?s_i_author=&s_i_title=&s_i_publisher=&s_i_keywords=Wilton+Park&minprice=&maxprice=&pg=0&bin=&ssi=13676499950125
Failing that, it might even be worth contacting them direct-
http://www.wiltonpark.org.uk/contact/index.aspx

By Derry Graham @ 14 May 2010 21:03
Hi Gordon,
Many thanks for your quick response and the comments you've made. I'll look into them and see what turns up.
regards, derry graham

By Josh Mehyer @ 26 July 2010 10:42
Hi Gordon,
my hobby is tracing my Dads POW time. He was at Bourton Hill Camp near Morton in Marsh Glos.
I would appreciate if you know of where I can obtain a list/registar of fellow pow's who were there too.
If anyone else's parents or Grandfathers were there too, then get in touch please.

By Gordon @ 31 July 2010 21:45
Hi Josh.
I doubt if you'll find a list of camp inmates anywhere, since a) there were too many and b) there was always a lot of moving between camps.
However, if you contact the relevant area archives, you might find details of farms which employed PoWs and have more luck there.

By George Thomas @ 10 August 2010 19:49
Hi
I am interested in the POW 296a on Doncaster Racecourse circa 1944/46
any info on the subject would be appreciated
Regards Francis

By George Thomas @ 19 August 2010 11:27
Hi Gordon
I have a German Friend who had a father in the
same camp as Kristin Richardson's father, her post 26th March 2009. Is it possible to put the two of them in touch with each other? It may help.
George Francis Thomas

By Michelle Cherrington @ 14 September 2010 00:01
Hi Gordon
I am trying to help a good friend of mine to try and track down his father who was an Italian POW in 1945/46.
He thinks his dad worked on 'Farm Cefn' in the Gwalchmai area of Anglesey, North Wales. His Mum did mention his fathers name once to him, but he can not remember. We are hoping that if we can obtain a list of POW names in the Anglesey area, he will recognise the name.
Can you help please or point me in the right direction?
Many thanks
Michelle

By Gordon @ 14 September 2010 01:45
George-
Apologies for missing your post.
If you click on her profile you should be able to PM her. That's probably the best way of doing it.

By Gordon @ 14 September 2010 01:53
Hi Michelle,
Welcome to the forums. I'm not sure you would be able to find such a list in British archives, you might well get some answers from Italian records or the Red Cross.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7&j=1
I would try and contact whoever owns farm cefn now, put an ad in the local papers, and contact the local Italian community. Someone is bound to know something.
You could always try searching for his naturalisation certificate at Kew if you find out his surname.
Sorry I couldn't be more help.

By George Thomas @ 17 September 2010 19:22
Hi Gordon
I am not very good at this, but how do I click on her Prfile
Ref Kristin, POW Doncaster Racecourse
Regards George Francis Thomas

By Mandy Weller @ 03 October 2010 18:45
Hi we are doing a school project trying to find information about camp 86 in woodchurch kent. If anyone could give us any info at all please.

By Gordon @ 03 October 2010 20:11
Hi Mandy-
As far as I can tell camp #86a in Woodchurch (also #282) seems to have been a German working camp at Henghurst House, Woodchurch.
This English Heritage report will give you some basic background while I look to see what else I can find for you.
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/publications/prisoner-of-war-camps/prisoner-of-war-camps.pdf/

By Mandy Weller @ 04 October 2010 07:54
THank you very much we live at hengherst farm we have found quite a lot of iinfo about the airfield that was here but nothing about the pow camp the houses are still here but the one that is now called hengherst house wasn't a house then as it is a convertion from a stable block any any info that you have would be really fab no one that we have spoken to in the viillage seems to know much either

By Gordon @ 04 October 2010 15:21
Mandy-
I can't seem to find anything at all for this camp. It may well have been just a small detachment of PoWs billetted there while working on the land. Sometimes "working camp" and "working company" get mixed up.
I would try the local council archives to see what turns up-try County War Agricultural Executive Committee, who were responsible for allocating PoWs to work.
http://www.kentarchives.org.uk/
Might also be worth contacting the British Agricultural History Society to see what turns up-
http://www.bahs.org.uk/
If you have to go to the National Archives at Kew, these guides should help-
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7#7
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/rdleaflet.asp?sLeafletURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enationalarchives%2Egov%2Euk%2Fcatalogue%2Fleaflets%2Fri2271%2Ehtm&lBack=-1
If you start delving into military records, Kent was part of Southern Command.
Hope this helps.

By Emma Grant @ 26 April 2011 00:30
Hi Im new here so Im not sure where I am. Wanted to know more about italian pow2 camps 16 and 28 please. How many hospitals were there as my father was hospitalised. Thanks kindly Emily

By Sarah Draegert @ 23 May 2011 18:45
Re By anna wood @ 26 December 2008 04:44
Hello Gordon,just trying to pick your brain,my dad was a German POW,do you have any idea of where I might obtain a list of POW`s names,who were held in Leeds?,
My mum met him in Leeds winter 46/47 digging out the ice from pavements,there were two POW camps in Leeds area,Post Hill,Farnly,

Anna, by coincidence my (German) husband's Grandfather was held in Post Hill Camp in Farnley and other Yorkshire camps between from May1946 until March 1947. His initials were WD and he was from Berlin.

Thanks Gordon I found the above information from the WASt in Berlin.

By Gordon @ 23 May 2011 20:34
Glad to be able to help, Sarah!

By Julia Bertram @ 02 September 2011 16:14
Hello,

I am looking for information about the Racecourse POW in Doncaster. My grandfather was imprisoned there in the 1940s. Now, at the age of 91 he would like to return and I want to take him. I know everything will look different and the farm he worked on probably doesn't exist anymore but he wants to be there again. Before we do that I would like to get some information, pictures, maybe some lists. Maybe there are also other people who know a German prisoner from Doncaster that is still alive.

Thank you!
Regards,
Julia

By Steve Delves @ 17 September 2011 10:43
Looking For Any Information/Photo's Of
Pow Transit Camp Harwich (Dovercourt)

By michelle biddlecombe @ 29 September 2011 16:42
anybody have any idea how you can trace a german pow who was in the hampshire area in 1946 please

By Andrew F @ 13 January 2012 21:54
Can you perhaps point me in the direction of detail related to a POW Simon Georg who was at the Potters Hill Camp 1944-1948.

We have found a number of handmade woooden crafted items (portail stand and a very fine decorative box for storage of the blessed sacrement) these were given as gift by the PsOW to the camp reverend at Christmas 1946.

By Robin Quinn @ 03 March 2012 11:19
Hi

I'm writing a book on German POWs in the UK during WW2. This is for publication in 2014.

Would be very pleased to hear from any former POWs, camp guards, or anyone with a connection to this subject. Would also like to be in touch with anyone who has objects made by the prisoners, documents, diaries etc.

Robin

By Andy Macfadyen @ 07 March 2012 16:16
Just a comment on life at Camp 19 Happenden Camp Douglas South Lanarkshire.

My father's unit formed the guard there in 1944 to early 1945. the prisoners were Italian and very good relations with the guards. However both the prisoners and enlisted men guarding them were very poorly fed Apparently a large proportion of the rations were diverted on to the black market without ever reaching the camp.

As we lived only about 30 miles from the camp and my father was a driver It was not unknown for my father to arrive home accompanied by couple of Italian prisoners for a much needed meal of i presume black market food.

By Adrian Markwell @ 12 March 2012 17:24
Re Camp 658 in Westbury, location unknown - I grew up in Westbury, my parents moved there in 1962 to a new estate. My father always said it was built on an old PoW camp... but I have no formal reference to that.

Looking online at this link http://www.ukaerialphotos.com/viewer.asp?x=386281&y=152549 shows a photo from 1945-1950 of the area that is now the estate -looks like this could well be real - the image shows what could be huts, similar to those on the 'Eden Vale PoW camp (Camp 114) that (I think) can be seen here... http://www.ukaerialphotos.com/viewer.asp?x=386283&y=151340

By Simon H @ 14 March 2012 13:54
Ref Camp 658.

Yes Mark there were three areas for PW in Westbury during WW2. All have now been built upon, housing or industrial units.

By Kerin Ingman @ 23 May 2012 14:46
my partner's grandfather was a POW in the camp in Arncott near Bicester.

He was Yugoslavian (Serb) and was part of the Yugoslav resistance force against the Axis troops. He was captured by a German/Italian force who were then themselves captured by the British and brought over here as POWs.

When he was debriefed and they realised the situation he made the choice to join the British Army where he was involved with the liberation of Bergen - Belsen.

After the war he and a few of his countrymen stayed in Britain as he was classed as a 'traitor' for being part of the resistance movement so couldnt go home. He married an Irish girl who was working at Bicester camp as a NAAFI girl. Even now there is a big (although getting smaller by the year) Yugoslavian community still in Bicester

By Janemarie Telford @ 13 June 2012 08:45
Hello,

My Grandfather was Ukranian and was held at the Amisfield POW camp. I am really struggling to find anything at all useful about my Grandfather, the camp and the time he was there. Could anyone please help?

His name was Wasyl Powch, born Kiev, 1925 and died in 2004 before i had the chance to meet him.

Thanks so much.

By Jan Robinson @ 15 June 2012 08:55
My father, now 90 years old, a Pole, was in the Battle of Monte Cassino in 1944. He came to Scotland shortly thereafter and I now hear from my mother, he was at Pennylands Camp. I see this was a POW camp around that time much to me and my siblings' surprise as he never has spoken of his war experiences.

Around 1945 he is in #95 Polish Transit Camp, Lainshaw, Stewarton but then by 1946 he had joined the British Forces and never returned to Poland. He married my mother, a Scot, and we immigrated in the late 50's to Canada.

I wrote to the National Archives offices in Kew, Surrey, England to see if I could obtain my father's records but they have redirected me to the Army Personnel Centre, Historic Disclosures in Glasgow.

Where else might I write or search as me and my siblings are now curious as to his service and with whose army did he belong? Are there any records of those people detained after the war at Pennylands?

By Robin Quinn @ 15 June 2012 10:59
There is some info on Pennylands Camp (in German) here:-
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Datei:Lagerspiegel-22-Cumnock-England-1.jpg
on 14 December 1944 there were 3,000 prisoners in the camp. On 31 May 1945 the number had risen to 3,174.
This certainly suggests that the camp was being used for POWs at the time in question.


By Robin Quinn @ 15 June 2012 11:00
There is some info on Pennylands Camp (in German) here:-
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Datei:Lagerspiegel-22-Cumnock-England-1.jpg
on 14 December 1944 there were 3,000 prisoners in the camp. On 31 May 1945 the number had risen to 3,174.
This certainly suggests that the camp was being used for POWs at the time in question.


By Adrian Markwell @ 15 June 2012 11:41
I wouldn't assume that a change from 3000 to 3174 was actually an increase. To me, the former number looks like an approximation, and the second simply a refinement of that.

By Robin Quinn @ 15 June 2012 12:54
Hello Adrian, I agree completely. The point I wanted to make was that according to this information the camp was being used for POWs the whole of this period.

By Adrian Markwell @ 15 June 2012 13:05
Ah, ok... I misinterpreted! I thought that you mean 'because there was an increase it shows it was 'active' (getting more inmates)

Rather than 'because there are numbers there for 2 consecutive periods'

NP, thanks

By Jan Robinson @ 15 June 2012 14:50
Thank you Robin and Adrian! I've managed to get most of it translated. Do you know what the difference was between a POW Camp and a Transit Camp?

By Robin Quinn @ 16 June 2012 11:13
Jan, I've just discovered this background info in Hansard, the record of Parliament.

POLISH PRISONERS OF WAR
HC Deb 17 May 1946 vol 422 c284W 284W

§ Sir E. Graham-Little

asked the Secretary of State for War if he is aware that Poles who had been forcibly conscripted into the German army are being kept with the Germans in British prisoners-of-war camps and that only those Poles who declare themselves ready and willing to return to Poland are being released, notwithstanding repeated applications to the authorities; and if he will rectify this position.

§ Mr. Lawson:

Instructions are in force in all Commands that Poles are to be segregated from Germans in prisoner of war camps. The disposal of those Polish prisoners of war who are unwilling to return to Poland has not yet been decided.


By Robin Quinn @ 16 June 2012 11:43
Jan, I initially assumed that your father may have been one of the Poles who - by choice or otherwise - fought on the German side. But wikipedia states that Polish troops played a prominent part on the allied side at Monte Cassino. So I'm now beginning to wonder whether your father may have served possibly as a guard at Pennylands in 1945, as opposed to being a prisoner there? Without more information it's hard to know which of several possibilities is the most likely.

By Jan Robinson @ 16 June 2012 14:02
Robin: I appreciate your providing some research on Hansard, the record of Parliament. POLISH PRISONERS OF WAR. This is wonderful information! I was aware the Poles played a prominent role at Monte Cassino. Somehow I believe he was, as he spoke of himself at Monte Cassino, "forced labor".
My father's parents were German and so my Dad was fluent in written and spoken German. Of the few things my father spoke, he told of working on the rail lines in Italy repairing them and the horrors of the rain of bombs falling around him while working on the lines. He did speak of being liberated by the British Forces while in Italy. It is from there that he is given the option of going to Britain or returning to Poland.

Because my father is now 90 years old and in a nursing home with Alzheimers, it's no longer possible to ask him any kind of questions. This is like looking for a needle in a haystack!

An old Polish friend of his told me two years ago that while my father was at Pennylands, before he was released, he was interrogated and then classified in order to move over to the Polish Transit Camp at Lainshaw.

I hope that I can get some more information from the Army Personnel Centre, Historic Disclosures in Glasgow but I'm sure it will only pertain to his enrollment with the British Forces.

I did learn recently while working on paperwork for both of my parents that my father receives a full Pension from the German government. My assumption always was that prisoners of war received "lump sum" payments as a result of their war efforts.

Thank goodness for the internet and my access to it and thank you so much for your information.

By Robin Quinn @ 16 June 2012 14:59
Hi Jan,

Then it does sound as if he fought on the German side and was taken prisoner by the allies. If you go to this web page, you'll see a research guide compiled by the National Archives, which can be downloaded as a pdf.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/pow-displaced-persons.htm

It contains details of the Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) in Berlin, where any service/POW details of your father may be available.

I'd be fascinated to know what you find. Good luck!

By Jan Robinson @ 16 June 2012 20:58
Hello Robin:
Much appreciated the link to the Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt) in Berlin. I think I'm going to write them for info, provided they are able to, given that my father is still alive.

Your thoughts echo mine as I've somewhat suspected this for the past year while going through paperwork of my father's while completing documentation for proof of life in regards to his pensions.

I doubt I am alone as a 62 year old woman who has no knowledge of their father's war time experiences. It's really a shame that purely by chance my mother throwing out the name "Pennylands Camp" did I begin to pursue his background.

This would almost be worthy of another thread, eh? Nonetheless, I will follow your leads and keep you abreast but beginning Monday and for the next three weeks, I am off on vacation to Virginia Beach.

Your resources are remarkable, Robin! You must have been doing this for a while. I meant to say that the other night, I did manage to locate some aerial photographs online of Pennylands Camp in Cumnock!

Thank you and I will post more info as I find it.

By Jan Robinson @ 16 June 2012 21:33
Robin:

I should qualify my statement about another thread by saying that even after this many years from the end of WWII, I'm sure there are folks who make enquiries about POW camps only to be surprised at their findings. If it turns out that my father was on the German side, it will come as a total shock to me and my siblings, that along with the stigma to this day of being on the "wrong" side!

By John Scarrott @ 17 June 2012 12:33
I came across this while doing some research on another matter.

Newcastle, Nuns Moor Park, Prisoner of War (POW) Camp (HER 5891) A World War Two prisoner of war camp used to occupy the eastern half of Nuns Moor Park, situated on the green to the north of Studley Terrace. It can be seen on aerial photographs from 1944, and was used to house Italian prisoners who were deemed to require a very low level of security. Prisoners were let out to do menial work in the town, such as road sweeping. The camp appears to have been defended by trenches to the west, which can be clearly seen on 1947 aerial photographs. These were constructed in a zigzag pattern, which was the standard construction method throughout both World Wars. The camp was demolished in 1959. West Boldon, Downhill Quarry, POW Camp (HER 5852) 64 Section 3 The Second World War 85 West Boldon, Downhill Quarry, POW Camp (HER 5852) In West Boldon was the site of a Second World War prisoner of war camp, although the precise location has not been identified. Nothing is visible on immediate post-war aerial photographs. Each POW camp was allocated an official number during World War Two within a prescribed numerical sequence, ranging from Camp 1 (Grizedale Hall, Ambleside) to Camp 1026 (Raynes Park, Wimbledon). The West Boldon camp was Camp 605. Not all of the sites were true Prisoner of War camps, many were hostels situated some distance away from the parent site or base camp. It is not known what category West Boldon Camp was. During the early part of the war there was no standard design of camp, but following the success of the 8th Army’s North African Campaign against the Italian Army, during which a substantial number of prisoners were taken, many prisoners were eventually brought to Britain and held in purpose built ‘standard’ camps, many of which were built by the prisoners themselves (Thomas 2003). High Spen, POW Camp (HER 7682) This camp was situated on Rogues Lane between the drift mine and sewage site.

By Robin Quinn @ 17 June 2012 13:04
After occupying Poland the Germans would have regarded ethnic Germans living there as their own citizens, Jan. Your father was about 17 at the time of the German invasion and, like many, many others, really had no choice in the matter. And, of course, his family were 'hostages' of the Germans, so you can guess what would have happened if he had rebelled!

By Jan Robinson @ 17 June 2012 21:33
Indeed, Robin, my father was 17 at the time of the German invasion. He and his father (who was a Station Master of the local northern village's railstation) were both rounded up at gun point) along with a friend of my father's who was the same age as my father. My father's friend refused to be taken and was shot in front of my father. Something that my father never forgot. Both my father and my grandfather were put to work on the rail lines. So I hear where you're coming from.

By Simon H @ 19 June 2012 13:09
Hi Jan,

As you mention that your Father was captured in Italy I'm wondering whether he was in fact a Polish Hiwi (Hilfwilliger). With his specialism in the railways he was perhaps employed by the Germans in a construction/maintainence role rather than in direct combat.

Given that in such a combat role he would possibly have come up against his fellow countrymen I think such a combat role is unlikely.

Regards,
Simon

By Jan Robinson @ 16 August 2012 21:39
Indeed, I have just received my father's WWII records from the Ministry of Defence, APC Polish Inquiries Division, in Middlesex and he was a Polish Hiwi employed in construction and maintenance in Italy. Liberated by the British in Italy, he then joined the Polish Forces under British Command where he continued to serve with the Polish Forces and eventually joined the British Forces in the Armoured Fighting Vehicle & Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers Division.
I also received along with his full service record notification that he is entitled to the British War Medal 1939-45 which had never been issued to him. I have just forwarded this info to my mother and she'll be signing off on his issue of Campaign Stars and Medals for Ex-Army Personnel. Under British Command he was enlisted into the Polish Resettlement Corps in 1946 and served in the United Kingdom until he was honourably discharged on completion of his two years contract with the PRC.

Although my father never passed this info on to me or my siblings, my mother, who has just been made aware of this, is thrilled with me retreiving this information and his eventual British War Medal.

Now my next task is to locate a photograph of him during his years of service.

By Sebastian Neujahr @ 27 March 2013 12:53
Hi everyone,
my grandfather (H. Neujahr) was a German POW in Adderley Hall in Market Drayton (camp nr. 192 as I read above). I’m staying near Birmingham over Easter and wanted to visit Market Drayton. My grandfather never talks very much about this time. Not that the time after the war in England was a very bad time for him, he nearly stayed in GB. I think it’s just a chapter of his life he closed.

However, as far as I could find out Adderley Hall got destroyed in the 50’s but does anyone know something else about the camp in general?

Thank you very much for any help.

Best regards
Sebastian Neujahr

By Robin Quinn @ 27 March 2013 16:19
Hello Sebastian,
According to Wikipedia, Adderley Hall was demolished in 1955, as you say. It is shown on the 1954 Ordnance Survey map, so you may possibly still be able to at least visit the site and see the surroundings. POWs may have been housed in the Hall itself, but - more likely - were housed in huts in the grounds. The camp, too, was demolished (according to the English Heritage list of POW camps) but you may still see some traces, e.g. concrete bases of the huts, etc.

Good luck, and please let us know how you get on.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Robin

By dominic sheldon @ 30 March 2013 12:36
Hello everyone. My friends grandfather was a German POW in Lincolnshire, he stayed on after the war where in 1950, he got a local girl pregnant resulting in a child (my friends father, who sadly died very young over 20 years ago). My friend is trying to trace her grandfather with the aim of trying to track down any other surviving family. I have the mans name from Spalding magistrates court where he was perused for child support payments, but thats about it, how on earth do I attempt to trace where he went? what next?

By Robin Quinn @ 30 March 2013 14:22
Hi Dominic

He may well have become a naturalised British citizen: I would therefore try searching for his name on the London Gazette website (there are other reasons he may be listed here, too). He could have subsequently married another woman, which means that a website such as Findmypast would possibly give results in the Spalding area for the marriage and possible children; if not, try widening the search geographically. Similarly you could look up his death (if registered in this country - and assuming he is no longer alive, of course). Websites such as 192.com may show a result from an electoral register, even if he was last registered several years ago. Provided his name was relatively unusual you'd have reasonable assurance that it was the right person.

The Dienststelle in Berlin could also have info if they continued to pay an army pension to him. As a a relative, your friend is entitled to get info from them.

If you'd like to drop me a line at robin.quinn@btopenworld.com I'll be happy to help further if I possibly can.

Good hunting!
Robin

By @ 02 August 2013 14:26
Hi everyone,

I am a local historian researching on behalf of the Friends of Anderton and Marbury Northwich Cheshire the history of the 1939-1948 army camp and later POW camp 180/189, then Polish Resettlement Camp Marbury Hall. If anyone has any information they can share we would be very grateful.

By Hollie Meikle @ 13 September 2013 14:50
Hi, I am currently undertaking research for a university dissertation based around the Glenbranter and Knapdale camps. If anyone has any information about either or know of someone I should contact that would be great!

Hollie

By Debbie Lowe @ 25 September 2013 19:07
Hi. My Grandad was in the displaced persons camp at Merevale Hall in Atherstone, Warwickshire, (nos 195 and 241 in the POW camp list). His name was Waclaw Bogucki. He and his sister were taken by the Germans from his farm in Poland when he was 14 and made to work on the farms in Germany. At the end of the war, he chose to come to the UK, initially living in Scotland, then in the Midlands, at Merevale Hall. Please does anyone have any information or photos from the camp at Merevale Hall, know anyone who was there about 1946, or know my Grandad?

By Hennie Pretorius @ 11 February 2014 07:27
Hi Gordon

Could you send me Roy Ainscough's details - he posted on 25 November 2009 14:47.

I am looking for a POW's child which could match - and the POW could be the father he is looking for,

By James Tindill @ 16 August 2014 22:09
With the amount of PoW camps in England during WW11 I guess it's possible a few got 'lost' along the way. During the early 40's my parents and I lived at 6 Brampton Road, Stanwix Bank, Carlisle, Cumbria which was opposite a large park. At some stage a large hut was built to house German prisoners. It was not a Nissan hut but built out of wood and raised off the ground on blocks. I don't know how many prisoners lived there but I can't remember ever seeing more than two British soldiers armed with rifles guarding them. We, as children, would often sit around the braziers with the prisoners who, apart from one, were friendly towards us. Although I've tried to find records of this camp there doesn't appear to be one. I can't remember the year/s they were there but it would have been between 1943/5 to the best of my recollection.

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