the_historian
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 | | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | Anyone feeling energetic enough to provide a list of these in their area?
I've been meaning to myself, but am in the middle of a big project which I need to finish off first. Fancy showing us how it's done, Co? 
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the_historian
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| | 08 Feb 2004 12:36 PM | | | Steve,
Sorry about the delay but I'm still pc-less.
How about monument database, off the top of my head? Or site database?
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the_historian
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| | 08 Mar 2004 12:22 PM | | | Nice one Steve. Should be a good resource soon.
BTW, still working on that Stirlingshire list for you.
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Venicone
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| | 07 Jun 2004 09:39 AM | | quote:
Originally posted by the_historian
Nae cheek, nae chance!
I've got a copy of the old 1963 RCAHMS survey of monuments and sites in Stirlingshire, so I'll have a trawl through that when time permits.
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Can we agree what information we want before I begin :)
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the_historian
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| | 07 Aug 2004 04:15 PM | | | Well,
I thought about a list of forts, duns and brochs in each PRESENT county, to start a kind of database. As I said, I have the 1963 survey for Stirlingshire, but modern Stirlingshire is only about 2/3 the size so a lot of sites would be missed out.
What are your thoughts?
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Venicone
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| | 07 Aug 2004 04:35 PM | | | forts
reference
short description
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present counties? ha! you are trying to test me grey cells :)
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the_historian
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| | 07 Aug 2004 04:45 PM | | Yep, that's the idea. Take it you mean MAP reference?
Know all about present counties-just finished a list of ww2 POW camps, putting them into their modern county areas. I had no idea there were now so many in England. For example, you've now got Lincolnshire, North Lincolnshire and North-East Lincolnshire!
No wonder I left local government.....
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Venicone
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| | 07 Aug 2004 04:47 PM | | | yes I mean map references
so if I get stuck on counties I can just ask you !!
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the_historian
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| | 07 Aug 2004 04:49 PM | | God!
Only if you must, quine 
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Venicone
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| | 07 Aug 2004 04:51 PM | | | ive just been doing some web work on the churchill barriers with a wee bit about the 3 POW camps and the Italian Chapel
spooky!
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Venicone
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | what are you like:)
ill do scotland - after my holiday:)
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the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | Nae cheek, nae chance!
I've got a copy of the old 1963 RCAHMS survey of monuments and sites in Stirlingshire, so I'll have a trawl through that when time permits.
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the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | Ok-forts in (modern) Stirlingshire:
Abbey Craig, Stirling(NS809956)
This consists of a 260' long turf -covered bank covering the summit. It stands to a height of of 5' and may be a ruined timber-faced wall; vitrified material has previously been found. The fort's interior measures 175' N-S, by 125' transversely. The fort was severely damaged during the construction of the National Wallace Monument on the craig, and by modern approach roads.
Auld Knowe, The, Callander(NN65300480)
situated on the north side of the B8032 Callander-Deanston road, opposite West Torrie Farm.
Brackland Glen, Callander(NN64990790)
Lies 1/2 mile west of the town at 132m OD. The fort sits on a knoll in Brackland Glen, between two woods and south of West Bracklinn Cottage.
Cowie(NS836892)
This village is four miles west of Stirling. The fort was situated on the Berry Hills, 1/4 mile west of Cowie, and was pear-shaped in plan. It measured 150' N-S by 170' transversely, within a triple line of defences. The site has now been destroyed by quarrying.
Dumyat,Stirling(NS832973)
Built on the most western hill of the Ochils, which was once the basalt plug inside a long extinct and eroded away volcano. The fort is situated near the western edge of a ravine on the south face of the hill, 500 yards west of the summit. It comprises an oval enclosure 90' by 55' near the cliff, within a series of four walls to the west which effectively cut off the "promontory". It may be a dun inside an earlier fort-vitrified material has been found. The name is generally accepted as Dun Maeatae- the fortress of the Maeatae, a Roman-era tribe who had a capital on the hill.
Dunmore, Callander(NN60200760)
Lies on the summit of Dunmore Hill and 1/2 mile west of the A821 Kilmahog-Brig O' Turk road. A large boulder known as Samson's Stone lies 1 mile to the NE.
Dunmore, Fintry(NS605865)
This is the most northern hill of the Campsie Fells, between Stirlingshire and Strathclyde, and the fort sits at 1126' OD. It is 1/2 mile west of the village of Fintry. The summit is oval, 530' E-W by 170' transversely. There are four defensive walls at lower levels immediately below the summit, but the sheer slopes make further walls unnecessary. On the NE side of the ridge there is a 12' thick wall running across the crest of a slope which forms an enclosure. This is identical to a feature found on the fort at Rubers Law in the Borders.
East Torrie, Callander(NN65800390)
Situated at 107m OD on a knoll 1/2 mile SE of East Torrie Farm, south of the B8032 Callander-Deanston road. The fort is on an open moor.
Gillies Hill, Cambusbarron(NS768917)
This village is one mile west of Stirling, and the fort lies 1/2 mile west of the ruins of Polmaise Castle. The fort lies on top of the crags on the W face of the hill, on the edge of a gully T 450' OD. The angle formed by the crags on the N side of the gully have been enclosed by three ramparts, the area measuring 240' N-S by 180' transversely. The ramparts are hardly discernible.
Kippenross, Dunblane(NS78209990)
Lies on the east side of Stirling road, the main dual carriageway (A9)into the city, and behind the gate lodge of Kippenross House.
Knock Hill, Bridge of Allan(NS78309850)
Situated between Knock Hill and Gallow Hill, on the east side of the A9(T) Bridge of Allan-Dunblane road, 1 mile NE of Lecropt church. Fort is heavily overgrown.
Langlands, Plean(NS822854)
This sits on a knoll known as Carr's Hill, 1/4 mile west of Langlands farm, on an unclassified road between West Plean and Dunipace. The fort stands on a low ridge and has been damaged by quarrying. The highest point of the knoll is the central feature, and an area of 75' is enclosed by a wall 12' thick. This in turn is surrounded by an oval rampart, 145' long NW-SE by 120' transversely.The distance between the central feature and this wall varies from 15'-35'. It is accompanied by a d | | | |
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Venicone
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | blimey Id better get a move on!
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the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | Ok -duns and brochs.
DUNSBaston Burn, Gargunnock(NS739936)
This site is 1/4 mile SSW of the Cambusbarron/Stirling-Dumbarton road (A811), and sits at 220' OD on a broad ridge north of Craigbrock Hill. On the north side of the dun, the ridge falls 170' to farmland, while on the south it gradually falls 40' to a burn. The dun is merely a 12' thick ring of boulders and small stones, the entrance may have been in the east side.
Brokencastle, Kippen(NS666944)
Kippen lies 5 miles west of Stirling, on the B822, off the A811. Dasher farm lies on an unclassified road leading east from the village crossroads. The remains of the dunlie on a rocky knoll 640 yards NE of the farm at 200'OD. The north flank is steep and 20' high, the other three being only 10'. The summit is an area 90' E-W by 85 transversely. The wall consists of a few boulders and exposed rubble core. Part of an early Iron Age stone rotary quern was recovered from the core in the 1950s.
Castlehill (1), Cambusbarron(NS766908)
This dun lies on the unclassified road from Cambusbarron to the Carron Valley, one mile north of North Third Reservoir. The dun can be easily approached from the NW, but the other slopes are very steep. It is 40' OD. The facing stones were robbed out in the late 19th century, but the rubble core remains. The wall was originally 12', and enclosed an area of 35'. The entrance was probably in the NW.
Castlehill (2)(NS767909)
This lies 500 yards north of (1) at 380'OD. An overgrown stone bank encloses an oval of 50' by 45'. This may be a ruined wall, and there may be isolated facing stones visible. The bank is about 12' wide, but scattered.
Castlehill Wood, Cambusbarron(NS751908)
This lies on a small crag 650'OD one mile west of the other Castlehill duns. It was excavated in 1955. The dun is oval, 75' NE-SW by 50' transversely, within a 16' thick drystone wall. The entrance is in the east and has door checks in the passage. Two sets of mural chambers were found, which may have been corn-drying flues. Roman glass and quern fragments were found in the interior, suggesting occupation into the late Roman period.
Craigton, Fintry(NS628872)
This lies 1 mile N of the village, on the south slope of the Fintry Hills overlooking the Endrick Water. It is 850' OD on a knoll on the slope from the water to Double Craigs. The enclosure is sub-rectangular and measures 48' NW-SE by 42' transversely within a ruined wall, originally 10' thick. The NW sector is a continuous stretch 33' long, and two facing stones can be seen in the NW and SW sectors. A 10' dep depression in the SE is probably the entrance. The remains of the outer wall can be seen on the NW and SE sides, and its distance from the main wall varies from 25'-38', but only a trace is left.
Easter Borland, Thornhill(NN65400099)
Situated on the brink of a glen on the NW bank of Little mill burn, the dun lies among trees 1/2 mile NE of Easter Borland Farm, which is 1 1/2 miles west of the village of Thornhill on the A873.
Touch Muir, Gargunnock(NS724919)
Situated at 840' OD on an open moor 2 miles south of Gargunnock, it sits on a gradual slope down to the left bank of the upper part of the West Burn. It is also 770 yards N of the reservoirs western shore. The summit is a 42' diameter circle within a ruined wall 8-12' thick. This wall is now only 2'6" high, and both inner and outer facing stones can be seen through the grass. The entrance is a 6' wide gap in the eastern side. The interior is on two levels; the 26' diameter central space and its connecting passage are a few inches lower than the rest of the interior. It is not known why.
Wallstale, Cambusbarron(NS774909)
This is situated 160 yards N of Wallstale Farm, on a south-facing spur of Gillies Hill at 490'OD. The centre is a 45' diameter circle within a ruined stone wall 11' thick. Apart f | | | |
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SteveW
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | Great work Gordon. My database head tells me that this info could/should be stored in a searchable section on the portal. Give me a few days (maybe longer) and I'll put this into in a scalable framework that can handle other resources.
Really appreciate the effort.
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the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | No problem Steve. Appreciate the effort needed to create a database, so no hurries, and thanks.
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the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | Meant to ask-you happy finishing a list of these first, before we start doing mottes, earthworks, pele towers and castles?
Would you prefer a different section for these, and prehistoric stuff?
Suppose to be pedantic, I should really add crannogs to the list I just finished, but don't want to be responsible for the webmaster having a nervous breakdown!
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SteveW
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | Luckily I've got a framework in place which is modularised. This means I can create new pages in minutes without any extra code and add modules onto the page. One such module is on the UK Resources page (the map). I think I'll just use that with different groups for things. So long as we have a location, I can add the details. Admittedly, the counties are all over the place, especially in Scotland, so that needs redoing.
If you can keep adding this data in different posts, so I can get it easier, then I'll just copy & paste when I get round to it.
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SteveW
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:00 PM | | | What do you think the page title should be that would display all of these lists?
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