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C.S.I.
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 | | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Just for general knowledge.
My replies are mostly for the "Petitioner"
They seem directed to current responses,merely because:
I don't think the author of this thread had anything less but agenda.
A grassy knoll troll poll,lol.
The 'dig' season lasts until November,if I recall the looseknit outline.Now that's not painfully futuristic.
I rather encourage new avenues of thought and insight.
A growth,perhaps.
Patience.
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| PETITIONer
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | For "C.S.I." a.k.a. pyramidiot:
Besides posting ridiculous wannabe thought-provoking comments, visit from time to time http://peticija.white.prohosting.com/eng.htm .
There, you can see such things as the interest by all sorts of people who are behind the pyramid-scheme to recolonise Bosnia. Thus if you read and listen what others around you are doing (besides listening only to yourself) you may notice things like these:
During 48 hours since the above text was published, this Web site was visited by the following "fine" people (in the order of appearance) (21 April): Grand Master 1st Order Bruce Hitchner, Boeing Headquarters, Halliburton Headquarters (Dick Cheney; and yes, there IS oil in Northern Bosnia, worth over $350 million a year), military base 'Wright-Patterson' Dayton OH (where the Dayton peace accord was signed), Raytheon Executive Office (State Department's global strategists), U.S. State Department, and a bunch from intelligence communities as well as those using faked IP addresses.
Recent visitors (24 April): The above-listed continued visiting through weekend (Halliburton for hours - on a Sunday).
Recent visitors (01 May): US Department of Defense, Air Force Logistics Command, Lockheed-Martin Corp., Texas & Florida State governments...
Recent visitors (16 May): NATO Headquarters, Northrop Grumman (State Department's global strategists), NASA Headquarters, US Department of Homeland Security, Defense Supply Center, US International Trade Administration, dozens of governments worldwide... (and Halliburton, checking back regularly to see if Dick's promised Bosnian diesel-cookie is still warm.)
Recent visitors (26 May): Microsoft Corp., Nellis Air Force Base, US Environmental Protection Agency, numerous foreign governments, numeorous global financial mega-corporations and banks, various royal courts...
Recent visitors - forces of good (26 May): The International Tribunal - Hague, UN Headquarters - New York, US General Accounting Office (Investigative arm of Congress overseeing the US Government), Turkish-Army General Headquarters, Franciscans University New York, numerous foreign governments, numerous presidents of world leading universities...
Recent visitors (15 June): US Department of Justice, Canadian Department of Foreign Affairs, other foreign governments.
The story goes on...
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| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Wait a minute; what's the crap on the bottom of that webpage saying "no to masonic Bosnia"? What exactly do YOU think freemasonry has to do with anything?
Regards,Gordon
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| archaeologist
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | quote:
It is said that the discovery of the entrance at the Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon proves beyond doubt that this is a true pyramid
i have seen pictures of the wall and the entrance and neither support the idea of a pyramid being in bosnia. none of the materials that have been found indicate that a pyramid has been constructed in that mountain.
it is interesting to note that Os made his announcements about a pyramid long before he had any evidence of such a structure. check out the pages at that website i posted earlier and you will find experts giving their opinion based upon the facts and not wishful thinking (as done by Os and his crew)
it is so easily forgotten that there have been earlier ancient construction onthat site, one from the roman period and another from the medeval. neither have been addressed by Os or his crew as any stone block or hole is proof for a pyramid yet they cannot expand their dig to provide ample proof of their claims.
they see a block and go here is proof but no one digs around those blocks to see if anything more is there. the whole venture is run by con artists looking for their 15 minutes of fame by tryin to change history.
this conclusion above in , hopefully, quotes is just an example of the poor thinking that is taking place on this dig and the adherents feel if they scream loud and long enough their wish will come true. | | | |
| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | From the evidence to date,and...back on topic.
I see no analysis in writing ,except the mere 'opinions' by and of individuals in the media.
I don't personally agree with anything SamOs says.
I want to see more strata,therefore,more data.
Yet... obviously considerate of overlayed,recent 'classic' ruins.
There is as of yet, nothing palpable to discourage the valid inquest and so far,some things palpable that should encourage the
valid request for more international multidisciplinary scrutiny.
The possible pyramid< s > are the only evidence to consider,when considering possible pyramids.
I don't particularly care who Osmanagic is,nor what he believes.
I counter petition UNESCO to entirely fund independant "Neutral"
side/by/side controlled accredited exhumation of what may or not,be history.
The Dig season ends in november,so...
I'm still listening.
Continue the digs.
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Petitioner,I believe the Historian has asked for an honest clarification of Freemasonry,and your current and unjustified smear campaign.
I'm rather interested on your,err...worldview.
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| fugue
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | 
If this is proof of a pyramid, I am really in the wrong job: the only thing it 'proves' is that humans lived there in the past - but I belive we already knew that!
Jonathon Smith
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| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | CSI,
Having read through that diatribe again, the guy seems to have a paranoid fear of Freemasons, for whatever reason best known to himself. I mean, at point he claims a "masonic conspiracy" arranged for Finland to win this year's Eurovision song contest and "keep Bosnia in it's place"!
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | Hi Johnathon.
I wouldn't say that image was proof of anything,that's true,but it can be considered mere evidence of human design...wether Os' ultra>ancient theoretical monument builders is up for debate and keener scrutiney.You are correct that other cultures have ruins on the mount and in the vicinity.
There is nobody hampering any qualified researchers from winnowing them down and sifting them out,Osmanagic may even uncover these other sites by serendipity and contribute as opposed to harm history.The odds seem possible.
This image of a test pit,shows evidential engineering.
but this is merely scratching the surface.These apperant cut blocks do not invalidate his proposals.After the initial probing for the outer casing stones,deeper removal of the surface layers
should be an agenda.
The full season of his investigation must,and should be completed and all data considered.
There should also be more access to current/updated remote sensing;satellite data.
>>>to Gordon.I wish not to be baited by The Petitioner.
but if he wishes to discuss the evidence so far/future.
I have no issues with that.
Drop the agenda/freemasonry angle and deal with the data.
Whatever Sam Os' past/personal beliefs are,are irrelevant.
The exposed stonework is still an open question.
I find it reasonable to support this quest for more groundwork.
Clay.
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| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Agreed, Clay. The fact he hasn't bothered to reply speaks volumes.
On the bedrock, there have been quite a few geologists in archaeologica who have been posting links to world-wide phenomena similar to what Osmanagich has unearthed in Bosnia. He gave a press conference yesterday which was remarkable for the fact that he and his experts seemed to backtrack on whether Visoko was actually a pyramid. They seem to be concentrating more on the real archaeology now.
Regards,Gordon
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| PETITIONer
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | CSI: Which part of NO do you not understand? NO, there are no pyramids in Bosnia. NO, this is not only about Freemasonry conspiracy theories. NO, Bosnia is not a free nation. NO, nothing in Bosnia that ends up in world media has to do with anything but politics. NO, little green men did not build or shaped up the Bosnian hills, instead: Roman legionnaires used to shape up the hills for military purposes -- always in the East-West direction inclined for 5 degrees because this matched the orbit of the Moon. Why? To see the enemy attacking at night under the maximum visibility conditions enabled by moonlight. Who knows all this besides us? Bruce Hitchner the father of the Dayton disaster-peace. Oh, a coincidence, he is an archaeologist specializing in Roman fortifications. Ts ts ts...
Now get lost with your wannabe science.
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| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Petitioner,
Leave the politics out of it.
As for the Romans shaping the hill to match the Moon's orbit, why didn't they do that in any other part of the Empire? I live near the Antonine Wall in Scotland, and it's clearly NOT built to match the Moon's orbit. The same can be said for Hadrian's Wall, and the Gask frontier system in Scotland.
Roman forts were defended by a variety of means, not just sentries and a palisade.
Regards,Gordon
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| fugue
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | I agree with CSI, that now the excavation is going on we should reserve judgment until we have all the data: each indervidual peice can be warped by either side of the debate when taken in isolation. It is fustrating that the evidence seems to be coming to us in these drips and drabs, each peice with a new and often contradictory claim.
I really really hope that the other archaeology is not being disregarded in the search for pyramid evidence, but that if, at the end of this season, it appears to be the case, then action can be taken to put the site in more competent hands.
Jonathon Smith
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | Petitioner,Sir.
May I ask your opinion on a similar and VERY recent unearthing in Central America.
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Ancient Pyramid Discovered in Mexico
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Archeologists Discover Ancient Pyramid
Under Site of Crucifixion Re-Enactments in Mexico
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By MARK STEVENSON
MEXICO CITY Apr 5, 2006 (AP)
Archeologists said Wednesday they have discovered a massive 6th-century Indian pyramid beneath the site of a centuries-old re-enactment of the crucifixion of Christ.
Built on a hillside by the mysterious Teotihuacan culture, the pyramid was abandoned almost 1,000 years before Catholics began re-enacting the Crucifixion there in the 1800s, unaware they were celebrating one of the holiest moments of their faith on a site originally dedicated to gods of earth, wind and rain.
While residents around the hillside in Iztapalapa, on the east side of Mexico City, express pride at the discovery, it illustrates the difficulty of preserving the many layers of Mexican history: archeologists have decided not to fully excavate the site so as to avoid disturbing the Christian rites.
"When they first saw us digging there, the local people just couldn't believe there was a pyramid there," said archaeologist Jesus Sanchez. "It was only when the slopes and shapes of the pyramid, the floors with altars were found, that the finally believed us."
"The majority of the people now feel happy and proud, and have helped out a lot" in protecting the relics, Sanchez said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1810107&page=1&technology=true
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I find it possible that much the same factors might be at play here.
Assurances were given at the Bosnian digs to care and protect superimpositional settlements/fortifications.
Sam Os' legacy is still an open question.
...but the petitioner already seems to have all the answers.
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| PETITIONer
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | A NOTE: THIS THREAD IS ABOUT POLITICAL MOTIVATION OF THOSE WHO PLANNED AND ORGANIZED THE SO CALLED PYRAMIDS-IN-BOSNIA IDIOCY. YOU FEEL DISSAPOINTED? STILL YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE!
BASICALLY, IT'S LIKE WITH TV CHANNELS: SHOULD YOU DISLIKE THE TOPIC THAT YOU ARE WATCHING/READING, FEEL FREE TO SWITCH TO SOMETHING ELSE. OR BETTER YET -- START A PROGRAM (THREAD) OF YOUR OWN.
WE WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO SEE YOU POST YOUR QUAZI-SCIENCE THERE. | | | |
| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Petitioner;
A Note: I'M the moderator here, not you.
If you want to discuss archaeological aspects of Osmanagich's dig, that's fine. What's not fine -and which WON'T be tolerated here- are political discussions, personal attacks and/or taunting other members. Keep to the topic, or else.
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| PETITIONer
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Did you read the topic? Good, after you read it, now go to the Web site provided. What do you see?
Amazing, that people can discuss something for months while never paying attention at the topic they are actually discussing in the first place. What a lack of focus. Why does Osmanagich come to mind... | | | |
| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Petitioner,
The topic is "Stop Osmanagich Now", and the link leads to a site dripping with paranoid fantasies about Masonic conspiracies.
Discuss the finds from Visoko, and leave politics alone.
Regards,Gordon
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | Barakat: ‘This is man-made pyramid’
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The two Egyptian scientists working at the Bosnian pyramids - geologist Barakat and archeologist Lamia El Hadidi – have made some of their findings public prior to completing their work at the site. They conclude that there are ancient man-made structures in the Visocica Hill region.
When he first arrived in Bosnia, geologist Barakat said that Visocica Hill was probably ‘some kind of primitive pyramid’. After more than a month working at the site, his opinion remains unchanged.
Barakat said, “For me, as a scientist and geologist, there’s still no doubt that this is man-made. I think that humans cut, polished, reshaped and formed stone blocks {that form the pyramid), bringing them here and adding them to the existing hill in order to give the shape of a pyramid to the hill.”
Archaeologist El Hadidi added that a large archaeological site has been found on the so-called Pyramid of the Moon, near to the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun. She said they were unable, at this stage, to date the site, saying that further research is needed. However, she confirmed earlier conclusions that this site also represents a pyramid. “It is really impossible that nature creates shapes like this. Maybe one, but not three or four sides of the hill as we have here. There is still a lot of work to be done here, if we want to unveil all the secrets of this valley.”
Scepticism about the existence of the pyramids remains within parts of the scientific community. This may be partly because the site in Bosnia does not represent our traditional image of pyramids - as in Egypt - but a different kind of structure where stones have been placed around an existing hill to form the shape of a pyramid.
A complex of manmade tunnels has also been found at the site. It has been suggested that the tunnels may connect the three pyramids. In one of the tunnels, a large polished monolith has been found with unknown carved inscriptions including arrows and a shape similar to our letter ‘E’.
http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_files/News.html
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Dr. Robert M. Schoch is a geologist well known for his research on the Great Sphinx, as well as for his studies of the underwater structure off the coast of Yonaguni Island, Japan, and other ancient sites and studies. He is currently a tenured faculty member at Boston University's College of General Studies where he has taught since 1984. Dr. Schoch completed his graduate work at Yale University, earning a Ph.D. (1983) in geology and geophysics.
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Maybe the Dr. can "Schoch" this thing for good.
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| PETITIONer
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | For “historian”: The only paranoia here comes from you, relax -- no one is going to steal you your moderator throne, regardless of how important you seem to think of your grandiose role.
As for the fantasy part, the only fantasy here is that of Osmanagich's, as well as of the extremist western media who joined forces with Bosnia's most corrupt politicians in destroying OUR country's archaeological sites, NOT yours. So, save your scrutiny for some no-man land in whatever sorry ass part of the world you come from.
Don't worry, the truth will eventually come out, not from your "excavations" of course.
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| SteveW
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Please let's try to keep this thread civil and refrain from personal attacks. I set up this forum for people to discuss archaeology. Legally therefore I am the publisher of the content. If any of the content becomes libellous or slanderous or any member feels others have been abusive toward them I will not hestitate to exclude people from membership.
I believe everyone is entitled to their opinions. I believe censorship fosters myopia.
Again, please keep this thread civil and refrain from personal attacks.
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| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Now this is interesting. In this letter, not only does Dr Zahi Hawass categorically deny sending Ali Barakat to Bosnia to study Visoko, he's also pretty scathing about his "expertise" too.
www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/zahi_hawass.pdf
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | |
Dr. Robert M. Schoch & Dr. Colette M. Dowell
Will Investigate the Bosnian Pyramid Excavations
July 27th, 06 through August 9th, 06
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http://www.robertschoch.net/Bosnia%20Pyramid%20Dr.%20Schoch%20and%20Dr.%20Dowell%20to%20Study%20Bosnian%20Excavations.htm
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | Ali Abd Barakat, an Egyptian geologist
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12837694/
>>>OR<<<
Egyptian geologist Aly Barakat
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5196362.stm
Are these men one and the same?
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/osmanagic/zahi_hawass.pdf
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I am further inclined to at least listen to Barakat's initial analysis and less likely to dismiss it out of hand,seeing that other scientists/researchers have co-investigated egyptian antiquities.
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Tut's gem hints at space impact
Thing of beauty: Tutankhamun's Pectoral with desert glass scarab
Tutankhamun's gem
In 1996 in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, Italian mineralogist Vincenzo de Michele spotted an unusual yellow-green gem in the middle of one of Tutankhamun's necklaces.
The jewel was tested and found to be glass, but intriguingly it is older than the earliest Egyptian civilisation.
Working with Egyptian geologist Aly Barakat, they traced its origins to unexplained chunks of glass found scattered in the sand in a remote region of the Sahara Desert.
But the glass is itself a scientific enigma. How did it get to be there and who or what made it?
Thursday's BBC Horizon programme reports an extraordinary new theory linking Tutankhamun's gem with a meteor.
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | 18 July 2006
Osmanagic says case for pyramids is made
In an article on the Foundation website (Foundation “Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun”), explorer Semir Osmanagic blasts critics who are opposed to the theory of pyramids in the Visocica region.
He writes, “Instead of the primitive cave man, in this country existed the cultures which built pyramid complexes and created mysterious ball-shaped stones. While the larger part of Europe was covered with ice 12,500 years ago, these cultures bloomed in Bosnia and the Adriatic basin. Civilizations did not migrate here from Middle and Western Europe, but from here toward them.”
Osmanagic reports that, after 200 days of excavations, there is now enough evidence to prove the case for the existence of pyramids in Bosnia’s ‘Valley of Pyramids’.
The initial period of exploration at the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun uncovered colossal, right-angled stone blocks which are evidently hand-made. The stones are laid in four rows, proving the involvement of humans.
The second phase of exploration took place underground in the extensive tunnel complex beneath the pyramid. An international team of experts confirmed that the tunnels were created by humans, highlighting the crossroads created at 90-degree angles and the in-built ventilation system. A large sandstone block, treated by human hands, also revealed symbols and evidence of early European writing.
A third programme, which excavated beneath the soil on Pljesevica hill, named the ‘Bosnian pyramid of the Moon’, uncovered precise sandstone plates which have been used to create the foundation of the terraces, vertical walls and a right-angled pyramid structure.
Classic geo-archeological methods have been used alongside modern satellite technologies to prove the existence of manmade structures at the Bosnian Valley of Pyramids, the first time such an approach has been taken to a project of this kind, said Osmanagic.
Precise satellite filming by NASA Landsat, Radarsat, Hyperion and Ikonos, for example, confirmed the existence of five elevations in the Bosnian Valley of Pyramids. The elevations show significant characteristics of “geophysical anomalies” (i.e. two or more sides have three straight angles). These ‘elevations’ are now known as the Pyramids of the Sun, Moon, Dragon, Temple of Earth, and Love.
Satellite radar (Radarsat) penetrating the soil over the Pyramid of the Sun also showed the existence of straight passages inside the Pyramid of the Sun which cross at angles of 90 degrees.
The international verification of these results is ongoing. In the meantime, at the end of June a team of Egyptian experts confirmed that “Visocica and Plesevica are created by humans” and their findings have been repeated by other international experts.
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Petitioner:
Where are you, and where is your dissent?.
I have no trouble debating you,but as yet all you've provided is basically--- Your words...NOT mine.
You do realise this has several months of investigation ahead of us.
I'm keen on you either:
1) restating your unbearably untenable position.
2)Reinstating the "this is crazy" position.
3)Or a PROPER position,that lets the Data do the talking,without you 'Cock-sure'-strut-a-walking.
I think you may possibly be an Enemy of History.
And I don't care for that tact.
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | 20 May 2006
New evidence of ancient civilisation?
Bosnian writer Ahmed Bosniæ has recently returned from the Valley of River Bosna (Bosnia) where he visited the village of Ozimiæi and found a significant concentration of the stone balls found across Bosnia. He was in the company Dr Aly Abd Barakat , Egyptian geologist (Egyptian Mineral Resources Authority. ), who confirmed that the balls were a manmade rather than natural phenomenon.
The existence of the balls in this region was not known until an earthquake 12 or 13 years ago revealed them. They vary in size with the largest measuring 1.7m high and with a circumference of 5.3m.
Theory is that the balls were created at the same time as the pyramids in the Bosnian Valley of Pyramids and that their existence proves an ancient civilisation existed in today’s Bosnia. This location will soon become protected as a National Park and will be recognised as one of the sites of archaeological significance in Bosnia.
Bosnic also visited Meæeviæi (Zavidoviæi) which contains more than 20 of the mysterious stone balls, measuring from a few centimetres’ diameter up to 3m in circumference. The picture shown indicates the size of one of the balls found.
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | Sorry for appearing as one to...ummm: outburst,
yet I find this compelling enough to draw a line in the sand and allow this to play itself out,not shoot it down before it's become airbourne.
Petitioner---
My wager:
You'll recant before Sam-Os. will.
the difference:He has Evidence and you have???
masons!!!
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| the_historian
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | This was all discussed weeks ago on another archaeological forum. A couple of weeks back, Osmanagich made statements to the effect that we only have a limited time to excavate these "pyramids", because they sit on an energy field which will be released on December 23rd, 2012, according to the Mayan calendar etc etc. Since then, there have been no sign on the forum of even his most die-hard suppporters in Bosnia, who had previously been defending him to the death daily.
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| C.S.I.
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| | 25 Apr 2008 09:01 PM | | | On the other hand,that "other" forum may look to "this" one and at least see a reasonable voice or two merely allowing the investigation to carry on.
As is dreadfully noted here...the AIM is to STOP!!!!! NOW!!!
Nah....
Continue,until the permission to dig: renewal/non-renewal deadline.
I've enough experience to know that--- beliefs versus data are always at odds.
But data is just data,nothing more,nothing less.
Zahwi Hawass is not a name I trust,and red flags are raised in my mind's eye with anything promulgated from that zealot's theories on egypt.
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