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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20821.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 7.125" X 5.375" X 2"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20822.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 7.125" X 5.375" X 2"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20823.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 7.125" X 5.375" X 2"- Lima-Igl Length- 180.98 mm L/W Ratio- 1.32 W/T Ratio- 2.69 Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20827.jpg PreClovis Biface- Dorsal View- 2.5"- Lima B-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20828.jpg PreClovis Biface- Ventral View- 2.5"- Lima B-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20829.jpg PreClovis Biface- Lateral View- 2.5"- Lima B-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20830.jpg PreClovis Biface- Distal View- 2.5"- Lima B-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20831.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 5.5" X 4.5" X 2.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20832.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 5.5" X 4.5" X 2.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20833.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 5.5" X 4.5" X 2.75"- Lima-Igl Length- 139.7 mm L/W Ratio- 1.22 W/T Ratio- 1.64 Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20834.jpg PreClovis Biface- Dorsal View- 3.75" X 3.5" X 1.125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20835.jpg PreClovis Biface- Ventral View- 3.75" X 3.5" X 1.125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20836.jpg PreClovis Biface- Distal View- 3.75" X 3.5" X 1.125"- Lima-Igl Length- 95.25 mm Length/ Width Ratio- 1.07 Width/ Thickness Ratio- 3.11 Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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Central Texas Flute Well, I messed around some last night. I didn't have the mindset necessary to do all the measuring necessary to make a replica of the "flute" you have there, so I just made something similar in the hope of getting something play. I will post photos later today. I basically made a 5" long cane flute in the same general configuration as yours. It has a solid node at the distal end, with a small hole drilled in it. For a mouthpiece/sound hole, I made it in a quena style (I'm guessing that if yours is a flute, that "V" shaped open end was likely the mouthpiece/sound making device). With no tone holes, it played a nice, clear, crisp high sound. Starting at the distal end, I made a series of 5 tone holes in a roughly pentatonic tuning. All work very well, except the one closest to the mouthpiece. When that hole is uncovered, it is near impossible to make a sound - just the rushing of air. This may be where the little holes come in, but it doesn't make sense to me that they would effect anything (although I just had a thought in that regard...what if you play the 5th/upper note by keeping your fingers on the 3 other tone holes, and simultaneously letting off of the little hole(s)??? I will test further tonight and post photos. I'll also work towards making more of a replica of your item. So far, I've managed to come up with a nice little "flute" that can be hung around the neck for decoration, and played with a nice sound. Tom
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Central Texas Flute Excellent news, Tom!! I appreciate your adventurous attitude, and, apparently, it paid off! Looks like these little flutes have been a lost art for some time. Interesting about the closest tone hole. You may be right: To play the closest tone hole, the three smaller holes may be necessary. One way to find out, ey? So would you say the little hole in the distal end is the sound device to which Lenny referred? While you continue tweaking the design, I need to get busy finding someone to date this little sucker. Maybe between the two of use we could publish a little something…
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2059.jpg Paleo Point Fragment- Dorsal View- 1 15/16"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2060.jpg Paleo Point Fragment- Ventral View- 1 15/16"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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An audio clip of the first replica, created by Tom Mills, of the central Texas flute: http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/Mini%20Quena%20Echo.wav http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/bone129.jpg Rough replica created by Tom Mills: Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20837.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 5.53125" X 3.75" X 2"- Foxtrot-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20838.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 5.53125" X 3.75" X 2"- Foxtrot-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20839.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 5.53125" X 3.75" X 2"- Foxtrot-Igl Length- 140.49 mm L/W Ratio- 1.48 W/T Ratio- 1.875 Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20840.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Dorsal View- 4.75"- Foxtrot-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20841.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Ventral View- 4.75"- Foxtrot-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20842.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Distal View- 4.75"- Foxtrot-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20851.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Dorsal View- 3.75"- Lima B-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20852.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Ventral View- 3.75"- Lima B-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20853.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Distal View- 3.75"- Lima B-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20854.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Dorsal View- 4.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20855.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Ventral View- 4.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20856.jpg PreClovis Flake Tool- Distal View- 4.75"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20859.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 4" X 3" X 1"- Romeo-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20860.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 4" X 3" X 1"- Romeo-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20861.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 4" X 3" X 1"- Romeo-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20862.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 5.9375" X 4.625" X 2.4375"- Romeo-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20863.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 5.9375" X 4.625" X 2.4375"- Romeo-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20864.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 5.9375" X 4.625" X 2.4375"- Romeo-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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Similar mold to that which was used for iron "bird" pouring: http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/iron%20artifact%20177.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/iron%20artifact%20178.jpg This mold example was recovered from Lima-Igl. ___________________________________________________________ Magnetic artifact recovered from the lower strata of Lima-Igl (the iron stained and charred cobble stratum): http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/iron%20artifact%2012.jpg PreClovis Iron Artifact 1- Dorsal View- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/iron%20artifact%2011.jpg PreClovis Iron Artifact 1- Lateral View- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/iron%20artifact%20139.jpg PreClovis Iron Artifact 1- Ventral View- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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Here's an exchange between me and Dr. Virginia Steen-McIntyre (USGS-Retired), that I think sheds more light on the geology of this central Texas site:
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Charlie, Your images 6 and 7 of the "Cementations (Bed Ice) from Unit Lima" (posted April 5) look interesting. Are the coarse gravelly "lumps" part of an underlying layer or are they actually previously-cemented fragments of a coarser, older gravel incorporated in a younger gravel (still older than your gravel with in situ artifacts)? Virginia
Afternoon, Virginia. Some dislodged boulders of the cemented gravel cobbles were discovered on top of the gravel cap when I first discovered the site: I assume these were eroded off the bedrock, upstream, and deposited on top of the gravel cap during heavy rain events. I've found no loose boulders or cobbles of the cemented gravels within secure strata, which I've tentatively defined as gravel in a hard matrix of silt, clay and limestone sand. I think the cementations, which are adhered to the bedrock, once underlay the gravel cap that contains the artifacts that are being recovered. Some of the cementations still have gravel, in matrix, covering them (or at least in close proximity): http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/site18.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/site19.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/site20.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/site21.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/site22.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/site25.jpg Whereas others are completely exposed, because the previously existing gravel cap, overlaying the cementations, has been swept downstream: It appears these cementations were formed prior to, or in the early stages of the gravel deposition, unless carbonate concentrated at the bottom of the already deposited gravel cap, and created cementations only at the bottom of the cap. I've found what might be artifacts within the cementations: http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/afw201.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/afw202.jpg http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/afw203.jpg I'm going to have to find better specimens to make a solid argument for artifacts existing in this particular stratum. It would be ideal to find a "no-brainer" artifact in the cementations, still attached to the bedrock. I'm looking. :D What's your take on the cementations? Respectfully, Charlie Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.pre
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20893.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Ventral View- 7.75" X 4.75" X 3.75"- Tango-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20894.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Dorsal View- 7.75" X 4.75" X 3.75"- Tango-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20895.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Distal View- 7.75" X 4.75" X 3.75"- Tango-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20896.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Distal View- 7.75" X 4.75" X 3.75"- Tango-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20897.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Distal View- 7.75" X 4.75" X 3.75"- Tango-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2061.jpg Paleo Biface- Dorsal View- 2.375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2062.jpg Paleo Biface- Ventral View- 2.375"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20898.jpg PreClovis Cleaver- Dorsal View- 4.625" X 4.75" X 1.5"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20899.jpg PreClovis Cleaver- Ventral View- 4.625" X 4.75" X 1.5"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20900.jpg PreClovis Cleaver- Distal View- 4.625" X 4.75" X 1.5"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20904.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Dorsal View- 4.5" X 3.5" X 1.4375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20905.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Ventral View- 4.5" X 3.5" X 1.4375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20906.jpg PreClovis Chopper- Distal View- 4.5" X 3.5" X 1.4375"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20907.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 3.75" X 3.25" X 1.4375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20908.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 3.75" X 3.25" X 1.4375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20909.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 3.75" X 3.25" X 1.4375"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2063.jpg Paleo Biface Fragment- Dorsal View- 1.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2064.jpg Paleo Biface Fragment- Ventral View- 1.75"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2065.jpg Paleo Biface Fragment- Dorsal View- 1.5"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/paleo%20artifact%2066.jpg Paleo Biface Fragment- Ventral View- 1.5"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20910.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 5.125" X 3.5" X 2.25"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20911.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 5.125" X 3.5" X 2.25"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20912.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 5.125" X 3.5" X 2.25"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20913.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 4.5" X 3.3125" X 1.8125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20914.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 4.5" X 3.3125" X 1.8125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20915.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 4.5" X 3.3125" X 1.8125"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20916.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 3.625" X 2.3125" X 1.375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20917.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 3.625" X 2.3125" X 1.375"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20918.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 3.625" X 2.3125" X 1.375"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20919.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Dorsal View- 5.25" X 3.25" X 2.125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20920.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Ventral View- 5.25" X 3.25" X 2.125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20921.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Distal View- 5.25" X 3.25" X 2.125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20922.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Right Cross Section- 5.25" X 3.25" X 2.125"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20923.jpg PreClovis Handaxe- Left Cross Section- 5.25" X 3.25" X 2.125"- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/bone180.jpg Carnivore Mandible Fragment- 5"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/bone181.jpg Carnivore Mandible Fragment- 5"- Opposite Side- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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My wife found another nice biface today: http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20948.jpg PreClovis Biface- Dorsal View- 3.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20949.jpg PreClovis Biface- Ventral View- 3.75"- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20950.jpg PreClovis Biface- Profile- 3.75"- Lima-Igl The detail is a little hard to make out. I need to buy some ammonium chloride to fume the white colored artifacts to bring out more detail. Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20951.jpg Iron Stained and Charred Cobble- Lima-Igl Note the iron remnants coated by carbonate. http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20952.jpg Iron Stained and Charred Cobble- Lima-Igl http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.com/preclovis%20953.jpg Iron Stained and Charred Cobble- Lima-Igl Charlie Hatchett Charlie@preclovis.com www.preclovis.com http://forum.preclovis.com/
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