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25 Apr 2008 08:00 PM
Hi every body, my passion is German pow camps in the uk in ww2,i have been working on the camps in the Cambridgeshire and Lincolnshire area for about 18 months . Is there any body out there who shares my passion on this subject if so please get in touch . Streak. By the way Gordon great site.
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25 Apr 2008 08:02 PM
A man after my own heart, STREAK! Welcome to the forums btw! If you go the main pages, you'll be able to see a couple of articles I've written on the subject, and there's also the Military Archaeology pages. Feel free to post any of your own research btw. Regards,Gordon http://freewebs.com/thehistoryvault/ www.photobucket.com/albums/y20/Historian
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25 Apr 2008 08:02 PM
Great news Gordon, one down i hope many more to come. Streak
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21 Feb 2009 01:24 PM
I seek information relating to a POW work camp called Carburton (Northhamptonshire?)   My purpose is literary, compiling data on a prisoner captured in October 1944 and employed as farm laborer.   This prisoner remained in Britain and died in 1969.     A great deal of research is underway in Germany but,  I'm hoping some one has data on work camps in Britain.   Please reply to Balinv@aol.com
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03 Apr 2009 09:18 PM
Hi there.  Just to say I too am very interested in the former POW camps.  I couldn't believe that our local camp had never been researched or written about, so I set about doing that and the end of 2005 saw the publication of Moota, Camp 103: The Story of a Cumbrian POW Camp, which has a lot of inf. re POWs at the camp (mostly German), extracts from Red Cross reports, camp correspondence with PID in London, and many photographs, especially of the very beautiful chapel that used to be there.  I am working on another book looking at life in Cockermouth (Cumbria) during the war years, and part of the book will include further inf. and photographs on life at the camp.  I have been researching that for some time now and it should be ready towards the end of the year.  If anyone has any inf. to pass on re this camp, especially relating to Italian POWs, I would love to hear from them.  All the research collected will eventually be deposited at the Carlisle Record Office so that people can access it.  I am happy to answer any queries re this camp wherever I can.
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21 Apr 2009 11:49 AM
Hi Gloria,
I never saw this post first time round. Welcome to the forums btw!
I have your book on Moota, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm sure your next one will be every bit as enjoyable.
There's a guy in your area who has hundreds of photos of wartime sites, but I can't find his website address just now. I'll have a thorough look later.
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21 Apr 2009 07:26 PM
Glad you enjoyed the book - any further inf would be very welcome.
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23 Apr 2009 05:04 PM
No worries, Gloria.
The website I referred to is by Russell W. Barnes- http://www.user.globalnet.co.uk/~rw.../index.htm
I'm sure he'll be able to help you somehow.
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24 Apr 2009 05:07 PM
Thanks very much for that Gordon - will investigate the site you mention.  Is there much information around regarding holding camps during WWI period for Cumbria?  An old lady told me her father used to cycle past a WWI camp somewhere in West Cumbria and throw matchboxes over the fence - the matchboxes contained stones that had been collected from Fleswick Bay beach (St Bees), and the men would use these to make jewellery.  I can't find any reference to WWI camps, but the lady was quite adamant it was WWI and not WWII.
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24 Apr 2009 05:21 PM
Gloria-
Contact Nic Nichols at gabinic@talktalk.net. He's researching WW1 PoW camps in the UK, so he'll probably know.
Regards, Gordon http://www.thehistoryvault.co.uk
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24 Apr 2009 07:31 PM
Wow, I'm impressed! - will pursue that one
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25 Apr 2009 04:36 PM
Gordon
Have had a fantastic amount of interesting information re WWI holding camps in Cumberland from Nic - thank you for passing on Nic's details.
Best wishes
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09 Jun 2009 03:58 PM
Dear Gordon
I'm still not sure how to navigate around this site yet! - I saw somewhere an entry from Joseph Tyson who is researching Moota camp when it was an Agricultural Hostel after the war, housing DPs (entry dated 14.4.09). He is interested in the period 1947-50. I would very much like to make contact with him because I can probably point him in the directoin of former DPs who would be interested in passing on memories. How do I go about contacting him please?
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Gloria (Moota book lady!)
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13 Jun 2009 04:53 PM
Hi Gloria.
This is the post you mean:

"By Joseph` Ritson @ Tuesday, April 14, 2009 1:11 PM
I have been researching some events and people who were at the Displaced Persons YMCA Hostel at Moota (situated between Aspatria and Cockermouth, Cumberland). The primary purpose is to remember two DPs from Eastern Europe who died while living at the Hostel in 1947. I am also going to write an article about these two gentlemen for the 2ndWW Blog so they are remembered.

Does anyone have any personal information they could share about the camp during this period please? The site was constructed in 1942 as Moota POW Camp (POW Camp No 103). Between 1942 and early 1944 the POWs were mainly Italians. From 1944 to some time in 1946 they were mainly German POWs. Many of the POWs worked at local farms trhoughout North ans West Cumberland. One of the German POWs worked at a farm across the road from my granparents' home.

After the Germans were repatriated it seems Moota Camp became a YMCA Hostel for Displaced Persons from Eastern Europe (Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic countries). Mainly, I think these fellows had been offered the opportunity to work on local farms as volunteers but under set contractual terms. This seemed to happen between 1947 and 1950, and it is this period I am concentrating on at this particular time.

As is often the case with research of this nature, there are little snippets in various places, such as the County and National Archives etc. Perhaps someone has a personal or family connection with the Hostel between 1947 and 1950 who would be prepared to share something about what happened during this period? "

Steve is trying to find Joseph's contact details for you.




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21 Jun 2009 09:11 PM
Dear Gordon
I'd like your permission to use information from an article you wrote on Comrie Camp 21, Perthshire, specifically the story about the murdered POW and the five men who were tried and executed as a consequence. I'd like to include the story in a book I'm writing which will include a section on Moota Camp 103. I disovered (from a Red Cross Inspection Report) that a large number of men were transferred from Moota on 7.12.44, presumably to replace some of the men who were transferred from Comrie as a result of the incident. Naturally I would acknowledge your article. Hope this is okay. Best wishes . Gloria
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22 Jun 2009 01:30 AM
That's fine Gloria, no problem.
Let us know when your book nears completion and I'll keep an eye out for it.
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11 Oct 2009 01:36 PM
Hi Gloria
I have just today ordered your book on Moota Camp 103.  My dad was there after the war in June 1947 and then went onto Merry Thought Camp in 1948 when these camps were used for displaced persons.   I have his 'National Registration Identity Card' stating these camps.  My dad came from Latvia and after the war was on his way to Canada, but due to injuries never made it there.  He then came down to Essex seeking work and met my mother.  Looking forward to reading your book.
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Dear Maggiev
Many thanks for your father's name.  Have added it to my database of inmates of Moota
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21 Nov 2009 11:11 AM
Hi.  I was just browsing to find pics of moota camp as my grandad  Gerd Winkler was indeed a german pow and moota was his final camp where he remained until the end of the war.  Captured in North Afria he was sent to a number of camps as far as field as the US  before ending up at moota where he enjoyed his time helping out on farms and enjoying weekends mixing with locals,this resulting in him meeting and later  marrying my grandmother.
Originally from east Berlin he never returned to Germany and never had contact with his family though my knowledge on this topic is limited.  He married my grandmother and they had one child(my mum) and  settled in Wigton where he worked most his life at what is now Innovia Film.  A fantastic gentleman who Sadly he passed away in 1993.
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23 Nov 2009 09:07 PM
Dear Carl
I was interested to see your post re your granddad Gerd Winkler.  I've just finished my second book which includes photographs and information about Moota during WWII and after.  The book is called: 'The War Years: Life in Cockermouth and at Moota POW Camp', price £8.99 (£10 if posted to addresses in UK), available from myself and at bookshops in West/North Cumbria (although sadly not in Cockermouth, which is currently recovering from recent floods).  Did you see the first book on Moota which had information about POWs at the camp, as well as pictures, including the famous Chapel?
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23 Nov 2009 09:10 PM
Hi there Gordon
Just to let you know the new book is now out - 'The War Years: Life in Cockermouth and at Moota POW Camp' - price £8.99, available from myself or from bookshop in West/North Cumbria.  Lots of photographs/first-hand accounts re Camp, plus detailed reference to International Red Cross Reports for the Camp.  Let me know if you need any more inf.
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23 Nov 2009 09:41 PM
Hi Gloria-
Thanks for that, I'm definitely interested.
I've just acquired one on Grizedale Hall which was fascinating.
Regards, Gordon http://www.thehistoryvault.co.uk
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01 Dec 2009 06:20 PM
Anyone know of any other PoW books in the offing?
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08 Apr 2010 09:48 PM
Hello all,i hope i could be pointed in the right direction.I am trying to research camp 411 wynches,much hadham,herts in many ways. what regiments came through the camp {British and American}. Names of Italian and German pows and finally {for the moment} Indians pows brought to the camp from stalag 12a or stalag 4d zw. I have so many more questions but hopefully this will keep me busy. many thanks

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