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| Sunday, November 19, 2006 | | POW Camp No 21 Comrie, Perthshire by Gordon Wilkie
By Steve White @ 4:07 PM :: 6675 Views :: 24 Comments :: :: Military Archaeology | | | Article Pages: | Page 1

This is the view from the entrance of the former POW Labour camp at Cultybraggan, near the village of Comrie, Perthshire. This would originally have been the compound for the British guards, and the white building in the distance was the detention blocks, or solitary. Cultybraggan camp was built in 1941, and was designed as a maximum security camp for ‘Black’ (die-hard) Nazis. It was split into five compounds according to the prisoner’s branch of service, with an additional compound for officers. The camp gained a reputation for bullying and intimidation from these officers, and this culminated in the December 1944 murder of a prisoner wrongly suspected of being a British spy. Five Germans were tried and executed in 1945 for this murder, all 2000 officers were transferred to other camps in a single day, and the camp itself was disbanded in 1945. Because it lies in 2000 acres of hills and moors, the army retained the camp post-war as a battalion-sized fieldcraft training centre for the Territorial Army (British Army reservists). In the 1970s, the western part of the camp, which included the buildings associated with the 1944 murder, were demolished and replaced by a firing range. The camp was downgraded to a company-sized facility at the same time. Relinquished by the MoD in 2004, it now lies empty. A committee has been formed by citizens from the local village who exercised their right to buy part of the camp, and plans mooted include industrial units and perhaps a military museum. Timeshare properties will be built on other parts of the site. The first five photographs are all of buildings in the British guards’compound. The next two shots are of the camp chapel, which sits next to the main gate. It is one of many surviving original 16 foot span Nissen huts from WW2. 

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Jim Mackay @
Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:02 PM  |
Excellent pictures! I didn't know the camp was still in existence. My particular interest is as a postal historian. I noted your comment that the camp was disbanded in 1945. I have a POW letter sent from the camp dated 30 November 1946 addressed to a lady in Stuttgart in the US Zone in Germany. It was sent by POW no 591472 Walter Dunz. This would suggest that the camp was still in use as a POW camp at the end of 1946 as he has written the POW camp number and address on the reverse of the letter, which also has the POW Camp 21 cancellation on the front. Regards Jim
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Gordon Wilkie @
Saturday, January 06, 2007 4:20 PM  |
Thanks Jim, My father spent many a weekend in this place at TA camps in the '50s! I've seen 2 or 3 POW cards for sale recently on ebay, but they were all for English camps. Thanks for the info about its closure too.
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Colin White @
Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:23 PM  |
I am trying to help someone with their familly history. Their Father POW No B51602 was in "C" compound Hut No 1. Do you perhaps have any sort of plan for the compounds to help them place things ?
Be most grateful if you can help at all
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Gordon Wilkie @
Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:49 AM  |
Colin- Can't remember offhand, but Ill have a look in the next day or so. I think I might have a contemporary map of the camp somewhere.
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Gordon Wilkie @
Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:31 AM  | |
My apologies; I don't have any wartime plans of the camp after all. I do have modern ones, and the camp still retains the original area, so I can email one of these to you if it's any use?
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Colin White @
Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:52 PM  |
Gordon Many thanks for looking. I visited the site on Saturday morning, and have now acquired a recent MOD plan. Hopefully, my ex POW will be able to identify the Compund and hut that he was billeted in. Regards James
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Gordon Wilkie @
Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:44 PM  |
Colin, I'm sorry I couldn't be more help. If your client is interested in sharing his experiences at Comrie, and it isn't going to cause a copyright rift anywhere, I would be very interested to read about them.
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Colin White @
Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:01 AM  |
Gordon I would hope to be able to share any information at the end of my enquiries, depending on consents. However, it will be several months before I am able to move forward and obtain confirmation of various aspects. Regards Colin White
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Gordon Wilkie @
Friday, February 02, 2007 1:39 AM  |
No problems, Colin. Look forward to seeing your research.
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lesley mcleod @
Friday, February 02, 2007 9:56 AM  |
hi colin lm very interested in the camp & was wondering if l could visit..........??
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Gordon Wilkie @
Friday, February 02, 2007 2:06 PM  |
Lesley, You need to contact the MoD and arrange a visit through their estate manager: Estate Management Scotland Forthview House 30 Hilton Rd Rosyth Fife KY11 2BL
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John Dias @
Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:54 PM  | |
I'm trying to find some history and/or old photos of an Italian POW camp in the Ouseburn valley in Newcastle upon Tyne - would anyone be able to point me in the right direction, please?
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Gordon Wilkie @
Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:04 PM  |
John, Would that be camp 669 at Gosforth?
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John Dias @
Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:04 AM  | |
Hi Gordon, thanks for this, Gosforth is actually a few miles away from the Ouseburn Valley, but it may just have been called that - where can I find any information or a location map?
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Gordon Wilkie @
Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:46 PM  |
John, If you go to the UK archaeology map here and click on view catalogue, towards the bottom of the list is a section on POW camps. It uses Google Earth to create the map, so it will zoom in pretty close. I'll have a look through my own data to see what I can find, but if it isn't Gosforth please let me know and I'll continue looking.
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Angela Farmer @
Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:11 AM  |
Hi Gordan. I wonder if you can point me in the right direction. I am trying to find out which camp my Great Grandfather was in. He was an Italian POW. We have a postcard from camp 71, which I assume is the General Processing camp in Suffolk as my Grandmother is sure he spent his time in Lincolnshire. We have some numbers which are on the back of the card including what I think is his POW number. How would I find out where he was transfered to. Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou Angela
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Gordon Wilkie @
Monday, June 11, 2007 7:17 PM  |
Hi Angela, According to my records #71 was actually shared by two camps at different times: Sheriffhales Camp at Shifnal, now in Shropshire. Newmarket West GPC in Suffolk. I wasn't aware of that, but you should keep it in mind when you're researching. As for tracing movements you should try file WO 307 at the National Archives, London, as they hold the few surviving files of the Prisoner of War Information Bureau. The NA have this information sheet which I hope will help: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=7 I hope this helps. Would you let me know how you get on?
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Angela Farmer @
Monday, June 11, 2007 7:39 PM  |
Thank you Gordon, thats a good help for a starting point, will let you know how we get on. Angela
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Adam Woodhall @
Monday, July 09, 2007 6:24 PM  |
Hi Gordon,
I recently came across these images of the pow camp in comrie and im happy to say they seem very suiting for a short film i currently have in production and i am hopeing you may be able to give me alittle information on thye place and whom i contact in order to set up a viewing with the intent to use as a film location.
If possible i would greatly appreciate it if ypou were able to contact me via email-awoodhall@tiscali.co.uk
Thanks Adam.
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Ann Roots @
Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:39 PM  | |
Hello my interest is in a Guard who was at the camp, I am putting together a publication about the people from a parish in Scotland who served in WW2 and I have this one person who served there. I would very much like to use some of the information or have permission to use a couple of the pictures featured on the site. Thank you
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Gordon Wilkie @
Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:45 PM  |
Hi Anne, Welcome to the forums! Feel free to use any of my pics of Comrie, and any of the info in the camps list.
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Ann Roots @
Monday, November 17, 2008 7:37 AM  | |
Thank you Gordon. I wonder could I obtain a better scan of a couple of pics as they do not do them justice copying them direct from site. I have also found that there was another hanging in the camp site just before Wolfgangs. Did anyone else know about this. I hope this is the appropriate way to answer. thank you
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Gordon Wilkie @
Monday, November 17, 2008 6:16 PM  |
Hi Anne, If you give me your email address and tell me which pics you need, I'll email them. Didn't know about the other hanging though; what were the details?
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Ann Roots @
Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:13 PM  |
Hi Gordon my e mail
AnnRoots@aol.com thank you
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